It just feels like Serpentine are stocking their cabinets with trophys, rather than providing an outlet for new talent or even lesser lauded global talent on their own territory (Caruso St John, Adjaye, etc). And that seems the possibility of the pavilion / expo format...

anyway, OMA is about program and not site / context so i think OMA building in the UK is a red herring and a pavilion (programless) seems particularly out of sync. Lets see, and I will reserve judgement for now. Hopefull they will put the blue foam away for this one...

maybe ur right.... (i will push for PARALEL architecture next year dont worry) ;-)

by the way i wanna see images of it already, sorry im really curious what they can come up with...i hope nothing close to the terrible circus tent they did for the EUROPEAN UNION thing....

I think its a function of the serpentine's attempt to sell the final product that process lends itself to selecting the uber celebrity architects...

actually, RK, here is my tip.

Lets put this OMA blue foam interest to the freaking test. Build the pavilion all out of blue foam, for real:
Structural foam, meshed foam, transparent foam, long-span foam, foam with a pool, foam in curves, monumental foam, foam with sugar, perforated foam, green-screen foam, foam impregnated with foam, liquid foam, gaseous foam, bioluminescent foam, expanding foam.

happy to serve as a consulatant in this venture - call me. we'll talk.

If you haven't tried blue foam, don't knock it. Great stuff. Once you go foam, you never go back....

Most of the previous pavilions were cool to me because they were excellent in terms of design, specially Toyo Ito’s.
My worry begins when MVRDV tries to “challenge” the concept and makes something not viable, and we could fear that OMA challenges the concept again and goes with a virtual tent or something like that.
In that case we will not see a good design anymore, but a conceptual expression, which is cool, but not as cool as a great architectural piece.

:o)

mauOne - that's a really great point. now that I think about it, I fully expect this 'pavilion' to be an extension of the AMO stuff they've done for the EU govt and for the Chinese govt. which is similar in terms of a project. thought but not designed.

I predict a barcelona pavillion redux (the normal cheap-fetishized jux with expensive materials) but with 'content' (no pun) instead of the normal anti-program pavilion.

i hope rem is reading so he will try his best to do (as usual) something totallydiferent than expected, so it wont be sucha dissapointment as we are already thinking it would be (yeah i also hope wont end up in a tent-like thing)

is there any requirement that it be covered at all ? the uncovered pavilion would be a rethinking for sure. no tent whatsoever.

i second Barcelona Pavillion redux

...and I wouldn't mind it either.

barcelona pavillion redux...3rd. anytime rk can riff on mies, he will.

exactly.

or, [steve, you'll probably know this] did mies ever propose anything for uk that wasn't built?

the next serpentine?:

if you squint, that looks like a super badass and coo king kong level. i can see the barrells rolling.

Lord Palumbo comissioned Mies to design a glass tower and plaza for London in 1967 (i imagine a la Seagram, I've never seen any drawings of the project), demolition of a number of historic buildings and the conservative british mentality defeated the project, instead London got a 'delirious' stirling
the XL Poultry 1

So, what can come out of all this net of relationships? Kahn, mies, koolhaas, stirling, modernism...

btw Lord Palumbo is the present chairman of the trustees of the Serpentine Gallery

then a meis redux is surely in the works!

that's mIes...

meistakes indeed

What happened to the MVRDV proposal for the Serpentine? I knew it got put on hold for a couple of years. Is it still going to happen?

I still only have one suggestion ;

great meisfortune

per, thats what they built the last time around

No not at all --- this one is not a lookalike but the real thing.

Try compare with this ;

itsa shame MVRDV did not propose something more interesting as a viable solution regarding a budget

Try find the same view point in the fiddled thing.

ap's is better.

It will be standing on posts and be put together by bits and pieces with no feel. Try check this and compare in an honest way ;



Beside when was that. ---

off topic---

PER your geometries are vibrant enough, why not use more pure materials and colors in your renderings so the aesthetic is not so......ugly

(Per, your ground plane looks like a granite counter-top)

Sorry but for me as a craftsman that pavilion looked as it had been a huge trouble ,put together with a jigsaw and if it shuld be a 3D-H lookalike it was totaly misunderstood , it was in no way representive for what can be made with 3D-H, it carried so many foults that would have been so much better if those who projected it, had understood 3D-H.
It was a bad 3D-H lookalike.

sorry per this conversation was about oma's serpentine pavilion not about the 3dH please dont hijack this conversation now.

except it was beautiful and we have yet to be convinced that yours isn't butt-ugly.

Hi

I am realy sorry to say -- but that pavilion -- if you in any way shuld describe it from the 3D-H concept simply silli. I would never had cut the sections the simple and tradisional way ,beside I would have placed floors at various levels , furniture build into the actural structural framework, and if the thing shuld act as a show piece, I would make sure to show both more floors and walls structuraly interconnected the framework structure.

hey PER, maybe we'll all be amazed when it's your turn, but for the time being......please.

i s'spose rem'll have to shrink it. i bet they don't want a pavilion that big.

Please --- just using the 3D-H framework as another thin shell , is that anything compared the obvious and beautifull detail that must go into it ?

Realy it's like they just heard about it and a bit funny ; here are a fantastic new tool , offered free by the cost of just a bit credit, and then instead of producing something with true quality ,then they made that.

per vs. siza. hee hee.