ouch

I'd find the person who sent me that message and punch them in the groin. Repeatedly.

Paraphrasing I hope or someone very oblivious...?

paraphrasing ... though somewhat oblivious as well.

hits close to home - a client of us wanted to get appointed to the design review committee just so she could change the rules and adopt a more californian type of visual code. she believes she's an architect/interior designer/realtor since we built the first house for her, now going on the third.

It's the same problem with state building codes... some of them (for example, energy codes) often take a lot of their input directly from insulation manufacturers, which results in classic headaches such as "You can't use the R-value of the concrete wall as part of your insulation requirements."

Concrete is R-0.08/in. In what situation would or should that count toward thermal requirements?

@WG depending on your climate zone in California, apparently it's kosher.

It could matter in the case of South Florida (climate zone 1), where your prescriptive R-value requirements for mass walls are R-5. Often times my engineers would be able to run performance metrics on the building and calculate out that we wouldn't need any additional insulation beyond the material of the wall (not that you'd want to use no insulation down here for many other reasons, but for energy codes it's... debatable as to its necessity for actual thermal reasons).

A practical example: even without using the performance-based values... an 8" 125pcf block carries an R of 2.21 (non-insulated). That's practically nothing in colder climates, but in Zone 1, that's nearly half of the prescriptive requirement just for the block itself. Yes it's a pedantic hill to lay claim to. I was just using it as one example where a lot of modern codes are built with manufacturer's needs in mind, sometimes counter to the humans who live in those buildings. I'm not suggesting that we should do away with insulation in modern buildings.

wrt archanonymous's comment, I've done work in California where you can get away with an uninsulated, fully grouted 8" CMU wall. Depending on the climate zone and building use ... perfectly fine according to the energy code.

Which is kind of sad that the worst possible building you're legally allowed to build just needs the insulative value of an 8" CMU wall. I feel like we could try a little harder.

@EA - we need better carbon lifecycle analysis tools and more awareness, but I'm pretty sure if you assume no heating and cooling, just ventilation, the embodied carbon in insulation will far outweigh energy savings in a non-heating and non-cooling climate. However, Americans are stupid and will still install AC in their 70-78 degree F year-round Cali house because.... because? I don't know. 

I think US comfort standards or just what is seen as baseline in real estate is so unnecessary. Bumping our acceptable indoor high-low temps 1* C through education would have an enormous effect on energy usage. (OMG I'm becoming Jimmy Carter)

Good point. Also, whole building LCA's are coming to CALGreen. Well ... a whole building LCA or a prescriptive requirement to get some EPDs showing you meet a reduction in GWP that the state set at a level that I think is so super easy to achieve that the requirement is to basically collect some paperwork. But I'm sure someone will try to do a whole building LCA at some point.

Then Foster is correct.

He's very reductive in his answer. Basically "Oh architecture can't be a tool that's used to impose capitalism, look at these examples of non-traditionally capitalist ("Socialist!") countries that have architecture!"

Foster may be reductive, however he is correct on this.

maybe not capitalism, but it sure has become a tool for globalization/homogenization, I mean, every new project anywhere looks the same boring wavy tower or transparent box with sprinkles.

Oh hush pessimistic old person. ;)

Now excuse me, I have some clouds to yell at.  

Foster's point, which I briefly and glibly agreed with, is that architecture reflects and expresses culture. It doesn't impose anything on its own. It reifies it. In re globalism / capitalism / neoliberalism / managerialism or whatever else you want to call our ruling oligarchic order, architecture is expressing that in physical form as a consequence of its dominance, not a cause. That culture/order is sterile, homogenous and dehumanizing, yes. So is the architecture produced in response to that. QED.

that's an interesting point, makes me think of what happens after wars in bombed cities. berlin is the prefect example of how many ways you have to afford the issue. My experience from a highly seismic country is that you lose a lot of history to developers just for the sake of making money. New urbanism on the other hand has been a tool for installing a foreign model in several parts of the world.

As you said JLC, it's about the money. Not the architecture.

Look at Prague - they are actively doing developments that look like the architectural style pre WW2.  It's all done with modern assemblies/ codes and use historically appropriate materials.  

I spoke with a few architects while in Prague about this development.  All agreed that it costs between 1.5 and 2x what a modern aesthetic would.  

I think the money thing is a second-order effect. The deeper issue is our global managerial system's view of ideal social order and human nature, where everything is easily quantifiable in spreadsheets and the ideal citizen is an interchangeable, fungible economic unit to be moved around in a universal, logical system under managerial expert direction with maximum predictability and efficiency and minimal deviation or personality. Money comes into it because as a ubiquitous medium of exchange, it meets all of those idealized requirements as a basis for social order and interaction.

Money then becomes the universal proxy measure of value in our society simply because it is quantifiable, universal, and fungible. Real human values are typically none of those things, which makes managers and bureaucrats and accountants extremely uncomfortable.

gwharton, you're not saying this view of the world is *good*, correct? Just that it is what it is?

That's correct. I am simply describing it how it is.

It would be good if we as people could assess Value in another way. But we have yet to articulate it in a way that makes it compelling to society as a whole. And we end up measuring everything in dollars whether that is the correct measuring tool or not.

TBH, I think we are driven as a society by emotion as much as by money (maybe even more). Teams, political groups, points of view, are all about emotion. Money is entangled, but especially right now even money will not sway opinions (FWIW, neither will a rational argument). But switch on the right emotion and the world goes nuts. That's how Sam Bankman-Fried was able to swindle so many, and in the end its why a politician can lose two court cases on sexual assault charges and still be a contender for president of the USA. Its also why so many people spend so much time making sure everyone knows which group a person is supposed to be in. Threads on archinect are filled with those kinds of comments. FWIW, I think the question to Foster was naive and leading, and he gave a good answer.

I think the majority of people are driven by ego. IE - the emotion of wanting to be important and / or unique. If someone can appeal to that aspect of other then it's easy to direct them to do or believe almost anything.

Thanks for the great discussions and thoughtful engagement folks! To be clear I tend to agree with the larger points made but also agree that his answer was glib and that a counterpoint could be that almost every profession/service provider is in some way used by capitalism to impose "it's" will...

Or perhaps more simply the problem is not architecture its capitalism...

Yes, nice discussion. The answer was not really glib in my opinion. The question was based on a political position with a specific point of view and he didnt agree. He implies it is a lot of words without actions, and just wrong when looked at factually. Maybe he could have spoken to the ideas behind the point of view, but at the level of architecture as a practice he is pretty much correct. Architecture is political but it is not the head, its the tail.

I think it's important to distinguish between capitalism, which is really only just an organizational system of economic relationships/transactions and nothing else, with the political ruling order under which modern "capitalism" is just a small part of its "political formula" and is operating (something far broader and more comprehensive in its form and function). The creation of architecture, as an economic activity of design and construction, is definitely shaped by and reflects the constraints of capital economy. But its reification of the ruling order's culture and political formula is distinct from that. "Capitalist" architecture in the 19th century was vastly different from "capitalist" architecture now. What changed is the ruling order and its institutional culture.

gwharton, China is the prime example of your point, the communist country by definition expanding their influence in africa and southamerica through capital construction projects.

It's on my list. It seems that having someone to punch down on is human nature...

I don't know if I could handle a movie like that right now.

It's ultimately pretty hopeful, IMO, Chad, if that helps (the glimpses of Trayvon Martin in it are heartbreaking). It's well worth seeing.

I'm sure it is. I just can't deal with anymore death right now. Yeah, I know I sound wimpy.

and this https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2iT8kFyCLU/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

The river is pretty filled up, Im gonna go see at lunchtime. I hope there were no unhoused people in there when the flash floods started. It is sad to see all the water just drain to the pacific when it could have been conserved for use.

As for the mudslides etc, they mostly happen up in the hills where the wealthy live, so even though its sad, I have a tiny violin I use for them

I'm curious how much of the flood water could be salvaged for reuse. I think that some amount of fresh water runoff is needed to balance the hydrological cycle.

Some amount is, for sure, but the way the river has been engineered with a concrete base in about 95% of its length ensures that there is almost no ground water recharge, except in some limited areas. 

There are numerous plans to "soft-bottom" the river bed but it has been done in only about 3-4 miles of the nearly 100+ miles. In any case it is sad to see all the water run off then us having to pump water from Northern California and the Colorado River to run LA.

california is weird, in tahoe you can't cover more than 30% of your land with house or impervious surfaces - I'd be curious to see what's the ratio in the hills of LA.

Thanks for the info SOD! I appreciate your insight on this. I've only lived out west (CO) for nine years. It's still weird to me how this part of the country deals with water.

Then again, I used to live next to Lake Superior so not having enough water wasn't an issue.  ;) 

I'll explain it to you Chad from the perspective of someone born in Colorado: 

All the water falls on Colorado. California and Arizona steal it. The end.

I'm sure the Colorado River Compact 1922, and the fact that no one listened to the hydrologists when it was written had nothing to do with it.

Pity to let all that water go...

LA's stepchild, the concrete lining of LA River once again saved the city's ass. Great pictures doc! I agree, we still need to implement ideas to retain some of that water going to the Pacific.

Wow thanks for the pics, thats wild

Soft-bottoming more and more of the river would go a long way Orhan

"Can you please explain what that means, without using the jargon?"

when I moved to the states 21 years ago I couldn't understand half of the architects' jargon and none of the acronyms. Language is a virus.

Oh right Donna, I thought architects were bad but working with MBA types is a whole another trip. Too much jargon, too little work (at least in my experience)

working for government "clients" is even worse. Everything has it's own 3 to 6 letter acronym and people keep regurgitating listicles of requirements using nothing but letters yet hardly anyone knows what they are. (very very few who work for the government actually know what they are doing. Most are there simply to fill seats). It gets worst with security terms. We had to adopt acronyms for certain parts of buildings to mask their true use... then the acronyms become so common that we had to further abbreviate them. Now we simply can't talk about them at all.

If I ever hear someone saying that we need to circle back to make sure we have synergy and ensure strategic implementation our core mission I'd probably punch them in the face.

Chad, we need to circle back on your attitude.

LOL Josh.

After listening my rant about this, an administrative friend told me “b b baby you ain’t seen nothin yet” !

Not to be a negative nancy, but I am gonna have you guys do a pencils-down on this issue. Lets circle the wagons in the morning.

::cracks knuckles:: I warned you all.

Chad I need to send you a HR training video regarding unwarranted micro-aggressive behavior. This type of "outta the box" thinking is what we do not need thanks.

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The same thing that happened x-jla.

wasn't beta an admin too? is this something donna can chip in info?

I didn't know he was an admin. I hope he's OK.

X popped in last week to post a picture in the food thread.

I know x is back. His time out is over.

We were concerned too so we reached out. He's fine, he just changed his screen name, and seems to be taking a break. Rumors of him being banned are about as false as all other moderation rumors posted in the forum.

That's good! 

Just to be clear - when I said time out - I meant taking a break from the forums, NOT a banning.  Sorry that was confusing.  

Now I kind of want to know about the other moderation rumors.

 Come on Archinect, gossip! ;)

and the big green head graces us once more with it's holy presence.

I love when Big Green Head checks in! b3ta is fine, we've texted this week. Thank you guys for the concern! Non I wish I knew some good rumors. Instead I'll give you this, ins't at least one of these folks Canadian? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3ywicffOj4

Come on Donna, we all suspect the the BGH (all praise its glory) and the admins are in some type of secrete cabal like a cross between the Illuminati and Scientology. :)

Hang in there Chad! I've been working every weekend in 2024, some longer hours than others, but the end is in sight for both of us! You got this!

Sorry to hear, Chad. Hope you can get a quick break to hit some fresh pow
der, it's dumping today!

I'll be going cc skiing tomorrow morning before coming into the office. I hope to get in 8-10 miles.

@chad how long is the commute? Sadly my would-be route doesn't yet have any snow, but I'm thinking about it for next year. By roads it's 7km, probably 5km (3mi) by frozen river from my house to office

It's up on the Grand Mesa - about an hour from my house. I got in ten miles today.

Wow. Those views alone are worth it! Feeling jealous from the prairies.

Winter in my area is measured by the number of days our canal skating is open. Last year was zero days. This year was less than 48hr. Almost no more snow… hopefully this does not mess up the maple harvest. Nice pics Chad.

Thanks for the kind comments. It's all above 10,00 ft (3,048m) so some days I feel the elevation. I live at 4.800 ft. If anyone is in the area and wants to do some cc skiing just let me know! I'm happy to take people out and / or recommend trails.

Cool to see that in the winter…do you climb the road? Or is it cleared and you just ski the top?

That's not a road. It's a groomed skate / Nordic ski trail right at the trailhead. Hence why it's so wide.  ::insert joke here::

There are around 60 miles of groomed trails in that area. There are another 25 miles of backcountry (not groomed) trails. I'll ski both when I can. Of course you go slower on the backcountry stuff with 6' of snow and fatter skis but the downhill sections are much steeper. ;)

I downhill skied as a teen but wasn’t a fan. I CC skied a few times in my 30s and loooooved it. Chad your pics are beautiful! So glad you got some time out in nature, it helps!

Well the fire station project drawings went out yesterday. Not the real fun begins as the contractor bids it and creates a GMP.

What a great reminder about alternatives for enjoyment and stress reduction.

But if Patrick Swayze joins you at the potter's wheel, be careful   ;O]

Or be happy? No judgement.

I'd let Patrick join me.

ya, no. we need patrick swayze defending us in red dawn, not messing up pottery.

Ive been preaching similar ideas to young architects around me the last few years. Get a hobby that you enjoy for the shear enjoyment of it. Not everything needs to revolve around architecture. Make friends who aren't architects. You're allowed to be a multi-dimensional person.

I'll take that one step further Bench. Have friends outside of the architectural field.

Bencharoni hitting the nail on the head. multi-dimensional person. When you ask an American what they do they will tell you, I am an Architect! When you ask a European what they do they will tell you they swim, play instruments, laugh at silly Americans! but in all seriousness, hobbies and friends outside of the profession is a critical way t o live this life and not be overwhelmed and consumed with the industry.

I had to think about this for a minute. I only have four friends who are architects. One of them is a sibling. One I work with. The others live on opposite sides of the country than me. Other than that I don't socialize with anyone in the field outside of the office.

Probably?

I was just reading the thread on the rapist and saw you. You do rock as well as mountains?

I only do rock climbing. No mountaineering or ice.

Nice. I stopped when my daughter was born but I really miss it.

whatever happens, let us know. what is it un-professional right now?

My orientation was given to me someone wearing sandals and jeans... in November. I guess it's technically a legacy firm now, but both the kids are the CEO and CTO with no architectural background. Maybe I'm a little more used to a more enforced business casual, but this is just plain casual. It's also not a small firm either, like 300 people or so. Our logo sucks too, like we even need one LOL.

I got HR to let me redo the survey, so this time I'll be gentler too.

I really want to know what firm this is . . . .

I do too! I love a bad logo!

Can I change my vote to Dick Busch on the Pritzker discussion?

That green thing at the tip doesn't look good. They might want to get it looked at.

Also went through this recently. Can commiserate. Took over 2 years to sort everything out.

Sorry for your loss

Sorry for your loss

I'm sorry for your loss, Donna. As annoying as the process may be, it could be worse. My dad died penniless in 2011; we didn't even bother with the probate process. Wells Fargo let him take out mortgages worth far more than his home, with no way to pay them back, and hounded me for years afterwards to repay his loans. Fuck that company.

I'm sorry, Wood Guy, that sounds awful. One of the people we spoke with today said to my sister "I sent you the form by email. Look for the email with a little paper clip on it." Um, yeah, lady. I've opened an email since 1996, I know how attachments work.

Thanks, I didn't mean to make it about me, just that when someone dies the aftermath sucks no matter the situation. I'm not sure whether it's funny or sad that they thought your sister didn't know how to operate her email!

Mom passed just before the pandemic here in CA, but we are from a different country where her bank accounts etc still exist. Still havent closed them as it will take quite a while to get things sorted. At least she still lives on in the Bank's records!

My dad passed a year ago January, and I am STILL trying to sort out all the accounts and other financial bullsh*t. Sigh.

I'm sorry for your loss Donna. I'm probably going to loose my father in the next year. I can relate to what you're going though. No matter how old you are you never think of your father as a mortal who gets hurt or sick. It's tough.

Exactly, Chad. Growing up the attitude of my sister and me was always “Daddy can do anything!” And he did, he was an amazing and supportive father in every way. He actually went out on his own terms, surrounded by his grandchildren, and it was as good a death as one could hope for.

I'm sorry to hear about your dad, Donna. Bless you and your whole family.

my sympathies Donna. my parents both died during the pandemic. even for a middle aged adult it changes your life and understanding of the world.

wood guy - my mom opened a handful of credit card accounts in her last year and maxed them all out before dying. i kind of admire her fuck-you to the world on the way out - it's amazing banks let people do this. 2 years later and the estate is still in probate... our lawyer is from providence and has a wicked strong boston accent, which cheers me up because it's so appalling. we're strangers IRL, but i cherish all of you - a toast to the grief of love.

I'd lend you the 30 extra degrees we have on mine, but then I'd need to put on pants.

^ What are these "pants" of which you speak?

This weekend it hit 70 degrees in the midwest!

The design brief of those images has a 'unique' take on reality.

I'm trying to be more positive in my life.  ;)

There are a few places where man's utter inhumanity to man is evident. Dresden is one of those places. Defacing it with this nonsense, even as a plan, is really obscene. Do not these people even have an elementary education?

You know I only did one all nighter in school. Other than that I was in bed by 10:30pm most nights. Then again all I did was school and work. Really no social life. ;)

I think if was in college when you were allowed to use software for studio and laptops were cheaper and more powerful I would have gotten a lot more done on the weekends and wouldn’t have had to pull all-nighters. I was on an athletic scholarship so my weekends were often spent traveling.

the last time I was working past 6 pm was in 2001, time flies!

I do stay up until 11pm quite often - 3-4 times a month, uptil 2-3am say couple of times a year...its SO not easy when we are older...

Curvy.

greenwash goes pro -- maybe it will attract all the "texans", preventing them from wandering out into western black/dbl black terrain

Just garbage all around

Designed by people who’ve never skied a day in their lives.

In a place where never snows

It's really horrifying, as is my enjoying a 70 degree F. day outside yesterday, in South Bend Indiana, in early March...there should still be snow on the ground but instead it felt like June. We're screwed.

Its due to north America having a El Nino weather pattern while Syberia was frozen with La Niña

Per NOAA, El Nino is fading. ENSO neutral conditions expected by May with probabilities leaning back to La Nina conditions starting in the summer

I'm spending the week in the UK. Honestly I'm not sure if there's any difference than normal. Every day here ends up with me at the pub

*banned asbestos, not the discussion thread

We already erased it from history up here in the frozen thundra.... see, renaming of cities is not just to erase political history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Val-des-Sources

I think most US citizens are surprised to learn it wasn't technically banned here already. It's essentially been banned by litigation for most uses, but still survived primarily in the chemical industry for chlorine production. This apparently bans its use there.

I still have some in my house... in several places and in different forms. Just don't go around liking random surfaces

The risk is so overblown as to be ridiculous. There's essentially zero risk of having it in your home unless you're actually crushing it and inhaling the dust. If every dangerous job was outlawed, there would be no mining, no scaffolding erectors, no underwater welding, no commercial fishing.... It's horrible that people got cancer from working as processors, but that was the extent of the damage. It's never made any sense to me.

I frequently find asbestos while doing facility assessments and almost never tell people they need to abate it. Generally encapsulation and “don’t lick it” is enough.

My maternal grandfather ran a heating and air conditioning shop back in the 50s, 60s, and 70s. They used a lot of asbestos for fireproof insulation in ducts and furnaces, and there were piles of the worst kind of it laying around everywhere: friable asbestos. When she was a kid, my mom would play in piles of the stuff. Two of my uncles worked in the shop for decades. None of them ever had any issues with asbestosis, mesothelioma, or related illnesses. My mom is now 80 and in good health. Which is not to say that asbestos isn't dangerous, but rather that the whole blanket ban and "OMG U R GOIN 2 DIE" response to exposure as if it was plutonium or something is way overblown.

OMG asbestos gave your family super powers! Asbestos is literally the fountain of youth! Everyone, buy my ground-breaking asbestos suppositories and candles, it'll cure everything!

Have to say I'm a bit surprised at the comments here, but I think I was also confusing discussions at my office of articles on Fast Company (here) and The Architect's Newspaper (here and here) with discussions on Archinect (here and here) so my surprise is probably unfounded.

One of those links has an unhealthy amount of Brad Pit pics.

We've lost Donna for the rest of the day

*unhealthy for anyone except Donna

Remember the no liking rule mentioned above?

vitamin p

Non what is the “no liking” rule? There hasn’t been nearly enough Brad Pitt around here lately IMO.

I'm guessing it was supposed to be a "no licking" rule

Donna, should have been "no licking rule".... missed a letter

I am concerned about the amount of licking going on in this thread. We're degrading the family dynamic of the site. Won't someone think of the children?!

Chad is thinking about licking children now. Please keep it to Brad.

I'm disappointed how long it took the community to respond like this. Now back to having Brad lick asbestoses .

Asbest-toes. Licking. It’s like 1997 in here.

You're thinking about a 19978 Brad aren't you Dona? ;)

In 1978 I would have been 11 and Brad about 13. Come to think about it, that is about the age at which I had my first kiss! But his name was Lance.

That was supposed to be 1997 not 19978. ;)

Too much talking about licking, not any actual licking. No wonder everyone says architects talk too much.

I'm not sure how to respond to that without getting canceled.

I'll just leave this here.  

One of his worst movies (bad writing) but the car crash is spectacular.

I'm not ashamed to say that I laughed hard at the car crash scene. Such a f-you to the romantic comedy trope at the time.

Chad have you seen the movie Hereditary? it has a spectacular car crash scene that also made me LOL.

hey, that's here!

I agree Donna. One such proposal is here in LA but is facing a lot of opposition from the NIMBY types. Funny that liberal hipsters pretend to be environmentalists until it comes to their backyard. Personally I love it and think it could even be extended.

LA City Council puts Dodger Stadium gondola project on hold for further study

Yea, sameold, I saw the news item and it reminded me I'm hot for urban gondola projects.

JLC, it looks gorgeous AND acoustically brilliant!

that ride is 15 minutes, and yes, the cabins are like recording booths - a bit expensive for sightseeing in the summer, $37 a head, but still very busy all the time.

In Telluride they have a free gondola that runs seven days a week connecting Mountain Village to Telluride.  The key is to be located in a super costly famous ski area.  Rather simple.  

"free" means paid for by rich tax dollars, we have free buses between the ski areas too, but this is the main access for skiing and be seen at aspen mountain. There was a project in the 80's to connect all 4 mountains with aerial trams, but there wasn't "enough" money then.

It's all paid by taxes. You'd be surprised how little the 'rich' pay in taxes in those ski areas though. :(

Took the steps up (and back down) Montmartre tonight instead of the lift. These prairie legs are tired! Should have used the gondola.

Did you watch John wick 4?

I've never seen any of them TBH but I'll check it out. It's actually a funny story - one of our friends who lives here told us that we "have to walk up the stairs, drink a bottle of wine and enjoy the sunset with the locals.". Joke's on us, it was a tourist trap so we enjoyed our wine, then left and found a great little dive bar where we got drunk and shared cigars with some locals. Couldn't have been a better ending, minus the food poisoning I got later that night. Ha.

Urban politics and strange bedfellows. Billionaire developer McCourt's 300 lofty acres of parking lots surrounding the stadium will skyrocket in value with the gondola. He's essentially pulling a Henry Huntington over a century later-- but getting the locals to pay rather than cough up the costs himself.

Separately... I remember working on a very early, conceptual version of this fifteen years ago. Time flies faster than a gondola, for sure.

Getting drunk and smoking cigars always seems to give me "food poisoning" as well...

Nah WG, nothing like that. Was most likely the steak tartare later on. Half a bottle of wine and a pint of beer doesn't even register as a hangover risk for me. That's lunch.

bb, it's just the last scene that happens in that stair.

BB after lunch: 'dis iS your MaSter bEdrOm. iZ a tEnt!' ;)

Hey I'm on holidays!

Every day is a holiday if you do it right! ;)

BB, you're the one who said you got drunk ;-)

Drunk, sober. It's all relative.

^ If it's all relatives, then drunk it is!

:: ba dunk da ching::

AHAHAHA busted! No regrets!

I so want to know details! ::gossip::

axon, I don't like the layoffs but I do like the idea of snapping p the experienced folks quick!

Mind if I ask in what region or city your former firm is in?

Sorry - I don’t want to dox myself.

Just heard of a bunch of layoffs at HOK LA office

Totally understandable axonapoplectic.

same. the question annoys me a lot though i have to admit there is a common style to all of them - but it's more a style of illustration and mood-setting than of architecture. the architecture is irrelevant in these. it's like asking what style is a pizza hut. it's totally synthetic and dissociated from any "natural" emergent style or intentional way of thinking about design. it's just associative image making. like generative AI, actually.

They all just look like they were given the grand theft auto poster-edge filter treatment.

This is what most of the images made me think of:
https://www.wikiart.org/en/cas...

There's so much of this GARBAGE one can generate very quickly from AI its not even funny anymore...

It's not going away. You'd better learn to use it properly to create good things.

The basic issue is - it can be used to create rather evocative REFERENCE IMAGERY, but beyond that it is hard to use it effectively for a designed product.

That's part of learning to 'use it properly'. The vast majority of AI available to architects are just for reference imagery and writing outlines. I've used it for both and it can be helpful. There are some companies using AI on code analysis.

and now that thread has been commented on by two AI bots, the second regurgitating the utterly inept assessment of the first. i don't see this kind of intelligence being sufficient to do even a perfunctory code analysis.

ah but just wait. We are in the early stages, maybe akin to when DOS became "Windows" with Win95. That wasnt even that long ago. Now we are moving much faster. Lately I keep getting adds for AI upscalers that are way beyond upscalers. They are impressive, especially when they turn the shitty people in enscape or twin motion to real-looking humans. Havent used this yet in my office, but I am pretty interested. It gives us a chance to make more professional looking work without the price tag or the time cost.

For context, here's the studio at UMich. Enormous.

I wish❤!

Dinosaurs have to watch these things, you know what happened in the past.

Dinos hiding from humans: "Oh crap, not again" ::furiously digs a hole::

we're likely to find out at some point. it would depend a lot on how close to a major city it hit - if this had hit taipei i'm sure things would have been much worse.

Thousands. BeCuhZ th3 Gubermnt cant TelL mE wHat to DO!

Then they'll say, "there should have been more government oversight!"

People before: "this is all a liberal infringement of my rights! You can't tell me how to build on MY property!  This is just a political ploy!"

People after:  "We need to set politics aside and give us money to rebuild our property!  Where is the government when we need them?!"

Communities are still trying to rebuild after the fires from several years ago.

look at the sun at 12:40!

look at the sun at 12:30!

3:30 here in central Maine. I'm driving a little over an hour to get a clear view. It's been snowing, raining or otherwise cloudy for the last ten days but perfectly clear and sunny today!

my office window faces north... don't think I'll see much but I also might completely forget about it anyways.

I could look out my window and get 98.3% occlusion but apparently there's a big difference between that and 100% occlusion. I hadn't been excited about it, as it's just a cosmic coincidence, but it's not a long drive. And it's something I can do with my mom, who's getting up there in years.

Here in LA its supposed to be only Partial - hope you guys get to see the 100% (or 98.3%) occlusion

I'm prepped! I came over to my husband's studio, the former Indiana State Mental Asylum, where there is lots of grass and trees and open space but we're right in the city. We've got camp chairs and eclipse glasses and I'm completely giddy and wired! I'm working remote today, but I can barely concentrate!

with inverted binoculars

That was SO WEIRD and beautiful.

Hey... who turned off the lights over here?

Several hours later and I'm honestly feeling serious depression. Like millions of us just enjoyed a global happening that reminds us of the vast wonder of the universe and our tiny little place in it and we're supposed to just go back to our 9 to 5 job for survival and the constant meaningless consumption and polluting we engage in daily? Why do we live like this?!? (Pours more wine)

The 3.5 hour drive home that would usually be a little over 1 hour wore off some of the glow for me but it was still a fun experience. Many parts of northern, rural Maine had traffic jams that had literally never had a traffic jam. It was cool to share the experience with friends and strangers all over North America. The last time I felt a similar, shared feeling was after 9/11; I was living in Boston and the drivers that day were downright polite!

donna, the answer is mobs, we live like this because of the mob's power thirst. I always say the worst mobster of all time was Christopher Columbus.

One day of unemployment looks a lot like all the others.

Easy question. You spend a few days after figuring out how you got into 80hr work weeks in the first place and make a plan never to repeat it again. There is no project, ever, that is so important that it needs that level of work. That screams terrible management.

Yes, but with terrible clients this happens all the time. And most PMs/Principals are too complacent to push back

This kind of thing is just bad business management. Period. Go find a company that is run by people who actually understand how to operate a real business.

Yeah, there is something up there. No one planned out workload.

I agree with what others have said. I'll add in - update your drafting standards / families that were lacking - look at the project hours and determine what should of been scheduled / billed for the project.

Get out of the office, go have coffee, lunch with friends, hiking, miniature golf, catch up on home activities, cook, have sex with your partner but for the love of all that is good in the world don't sit around updating some fucking drawing standards after working 80 hours a week for a bunch of weeks.

Not every firm allow 'flex' time archanonymous. Hence the 'update standards / families that were lacking'.  This is especially true when you're not in upper management.  

Just have long lunches for a week, Crow

Thanks all! I appreciate the kind words and support. To address some of the concern the project management wasn't the best that got us into the pickle, but honestly we had a same experience level PA flounder and quit a month before the deadline leaving to me having to pick up the workload for two. Wasn't an ideal scenario, but we got through it.

Go to your boss, remind them of the extra hours you put in to fix their mismanagement, and take a week off. Maybe soften it a bit but you know what I mean. We have one designer in the office who's constantly trying to work overtime with nothing in return, and sometimes we have to actually force her to take time off. Nobody can work that much and not get burned out.

Sadly, what a lot of us do in that situation is get laid off and look for another job.

h-vac

Depends on the context. I generally change my vocabulary whether talking with clients, builders or engineers/designers. Within the industry I say H-vac. With clients, I say H.V.A.C. and try to remember to include an explanation the first time I use it. Including the fact that it should include a "D" for dehumidification.

I say mechanical. Covers all the things with the doodads that wrilllllls and bzzzzzz.

In my world, "mechanical" includes plumbing which is usually, but not always, a different contractor than heating/cooling. Then again, ventilation is often a different contractor or contractors as well.

You Canadians are weird. ;)

Actually, that makes sense Non. Especially with VRF and in ground heat pumps. 

"Mechanical" is standard up here, since it's pretty self-explanatory. Though with the crazy level of systems integration required by our most recent code, I'm almost wanting to lump electrical into the as well.

"MEP"

I just roll in the room wearing a bathrobe and holding a long cold black coffee and smouldering cigarette. I lower my sunglasses and look around the room. "Building Systems." I walk out.

I'm bitextual - I sometimes say it both ways. I think I lean more toward spelling it out, though. I mostly say "MEP" though, since we all know all engineers look alike

Oh cool, I'm glad you went! Is Peter actually launching a new website? He co-founded Green Building Advisor, which should really be called Building Science Advisor.

And for you Canadians, the next BS+Beer Symposium is coming right up in Toronto: https://bsandbeerkc.org/toronto-2024, April 23 and 24.

I’ve been to one of Yost’s seminars. Good stuff. Snag some swag.

Peter's an excellent educator. At the seminar Proto attended he was one of several speakers, part of a series of 6 annual symposiums that grew out of my BS+Beer Show, thanks to friend and co-host Travis Brungardt. Not that I had anything to do with the symposiums but it's fun to know that my local discussion group grew into two Zoom shows, almost 40 local groups and a seminar series.

Two days of learning some good stuff. I sort of felt out of my element in some ways because of how advanced the presenters were in their work. I aspire to push in this direction with our projects but we haven't had the client enthusiasm yet for what amounts to "hidden" elements.

We are trying to teach durability, health, comfort in ways that aren't an "upgrade" but it runs into conversations of cutting scope aspirations.

So sorry Donna.

Good reminder, Donna, and I'm sorry for your loss.

Sorry for your loss, Donna

Sorry for your loss Donna. Sending good vibes towards Indiana.

Have you ever heard the phrase "A's work for C's, B's teach"?

bowling_ball this was definitely true for my classmates!

The A students in my cohort are all winning national and international awards right now and doing well. Something is wrong with my generation! Good for your friend, ill. MIT has a great program.

The A students in my cohort are mostly running practices too. The C students, they
dropped out early.

Oops. Hit enter too soon. C students are mostly out of the picture. Many dropped out before graduating or shortly after. Many went into allied fields.

What do you call the graduate with the lowest score in medical school? "Doctor." There are plenty of people with crappy marks who become professionals of varying degrees.

Actually I think C is a failing grade in professional programs. You have to retake the class. Sometimes B can be a failing grade and prompts rework or retakes.

though to the OP's point, students who do their work without passion and with a bit of laziness are often better at finishing on time and completing everything - hence better grades. passion is a factor in long term commitment but not in grades on individual assignments.

Merely finishing an assignment is a C. With poor craftsmanship was a D. Knocking one sock off your viewers is a B. Knocking both off was an A. Maybe just at my school?

I don't think it's standard between universities. Mine was known to grade rather harshly. It also used a non-standard credit system. For those who went on to grad school, we were encouraged to choose among a small selection who were familiar with our oddities.

That's great! Care to share a highlight for us?

Hmmm... tons of support from friends and family cheering me on, clients from past firms seeking me out and becoming clients of Aggregate, the ability to dictate what I want to work on and how I want to do it, while figuring out all the crazy stuff that comes along the way.

you've taught me a new word! do you worry your neighborhood has some kind of environmental pollution causing this?

Nope, it's just a standard genetic mutation. I do live in a very polluted neighborhood! But they can be found everywhere.

I don't recall seeing that but I'll look when ours are out in a few weeks. We encourage dandelion on our lawns, fields and even our gardens--amazing plants!

It looks like a little homemade Albert Einstein action figure =O]

Wood - Thanks for reaching out! We're in Grand Junction, CO. I'm not sure if the partners would be interesting in doing the work - we're swamped right now. Send me a PM with your contact info and I'll pass it along. At the very least we'll provide you with some local architects that could be interested.

Thanks Chad! I see your location on your profile but the "contact" button doesn't seem to work. If you'd like, you could email me through maines dot design.

Shared this with the office today. How would you not notice that? I say this as somebody with a whole bunch of animal teeth in my house but none like this

Yeah. That is *clearly* a jawbone with teeth!

I think he needs the mods to speak to him about his behavior. It's rather unhinged.

It's all cut-and-paste from google anyway: why does he never just say "here are some pertinent links that support my position" and be done with it? Why does it need 20+ garbled text blobs?

Where is this happening? Also, do you think he's discovered AI?

The UPcodes thread.

"Also, do you think he's discovered AI?"

No AI is existential to someone like rick. it's the same stuff he's been doing for a decade now. walls of copy/paste text from google with the blind confidence of a tech bro snake oil salesman.

Need more marble with teeth, less Rick.

Can I just have neither? Please?

No.

was the founder of upcodes a troll or the real guy?

No way to know. The name used is the founder of UPcodes. No idea if it was the actual person or not. I do know that Garrett Reynolds has an active online presence in various code forums.

Nothing turns me off of a thread faster than clicking into it and seeing a wall of "Richard Balkins is ignored by you." At this point I've decided it's not even worth trying to filter through and see if there is anything worth commenting on. It will all get drowned out anyway.

@everyday It's tough for me to think anyone should be excluded, but your comment is the strongest reason for censorship and I feel the same. I was interested in that topic until things went south.

The thing that I don't understand is Rick will write these verbose replies but not actually comprehend the question. I'm not sure how many times I told him the 2024 versions of the codes are violating copyright laws, not the previous version. He simply ignored that and kept posting walls of text.

Of course the issue with UPcodes incorrectly reproducing the various codes it hosts has been completely ignored by Rick and Garrett. 

I'm not necessarily trying to attach blame or accusations to this, but I do think archinect has failed in effectively managing Rick's behavior on the website.

Rick has shown he can't contribute meaningfully to the forums time and time again, and archinect has given him too many chances to show that he can. Every time it comes back to this; he posts walls of text on subjects he knows very little about. In a larger forum, he'd get drowned out, but archinect is just small enough that he can dominate the discussion and that's a bad thing and I think archinect suffers because of it.

The user-oriented options for moderation (i.e. ignoring user) are effective enough for most users, but they sort of fail in the case of Rick because of his volume of posting. Maybe there should be a way to limit the number of his posts within a certain time frame, or count. Even then, I'm not sure it would be enough.

I've definitely been turned away from discussions I'd otherwise contribute to because of the inability for moderation of Rick's comments. I don't know if it's possible, but I'd like it if when I ignore a user, it prevents them from responding to my posts. If I can't prevent him from responding to my comments and those of people who are ignoring him ... I'm not interested in posting when he gets involved because even if I don't engage him, he tries to engage me, and others as well.

I'm not saying I know the solution, but I do think it's a problem that needs to be solved if archinect wants to keep a vibrant forum for discussion.

The simple solution is to put him on ignore yourself. The site doesn't need to ban him. He'll wind up banning himself.

I've outlined above why that doesn't exactly work for me. I could see it being a workable solution if more people that are inclined to respond to him put him on ignore as well, but that's also outside my control.

tl;dr the things the site lets me have control of aren't effective moderation for me.

maybe just a daily post limit and word count limit. i think no one else would ever hit it.

I know of several forums that will limit a person to so many posts an hour (or day) within a discussion. It works quite well.

gwharton -

Rick has been banned or given a time out a couple of times.  He just comes back with a new username.  

Chad, I think what gwharton means is that Rick will get bored if no one interacts with him and leave of his own accord ... effectively banning himself.

I wouldn't count on it.

I'm done with it.

Seriously: ignore is your friend. But it's interesting that Garrett came in to the fray.

https://oldkycandy.com/bourbon-chocolates/ why choose?

Why aren't the thumbs up/down buttons visible right now? I "like" that comment, Wood Guy.

Those look good WG! I think I'd get super diabetes if I ate too many. ;)

especially when they then re-ask all those questions anyway and spend the visit staring at a screen as they type instead of looking at the patient or even putting hands on the patient

Nah im with you Donna. I get the same from my appointments as well, and simply refuse. i'll fill out the info when i get there, thanks a lot. the reminder via text is nice and useful, anything beyond that, stop bothering me.

You want to hear something really frustrating - every year I need to have my endocrinologist write a letter to my insurance provider to tell them that I'm still a type 1 diabetic and still need to be on insulin. I want to have my doctor start off the letter with " Unless you've discovered a cure for T1D . . . "

not an old man rant - this is one of the universal flaws of modern life. automation somehow means more work for the customers and less for the owner.

Be proactive! I send ahead urine, stool, and semen samples, and a framed 8x10 of my prostate from the last MRI. "Thinking of you" reads the little card opened by the office staff.

Why bother with the MRI photo, just send the booty shots!

My wife and I have spent a lot of time in recent years at doctors' offices with our moms. Both have crippling arthritis so we got very familiar with filling out those stupid forms, over and over and over. Not remotely the worst problem with our health care system, but a little thorn every time.

citizen… more comic relief like this please. TY.

A nurse once spilled the beans to me, saying that the clipboard of forms they give you at the front desk is at least partly intentional busy work. I guess this saves the money on magazine subscriptions...