this is such a joke---- posing for pictures w/ Frank as part of his "dream team," submitting "decor designs" to Rande Gerber, and taking a year off from acting to learn the "craft" and software.
please please will someone give me the direct line to his 'cubie' - i just want to give it to the guys at Crank Yankers so they can call and scream about 'where are the drawings?', 'have you finished the damn redlines yet?' and 'no you can't go home at 9pm we have a freaking deadline...'.
Actually we should be nice -being 40 and attending your first internship 'introduction to the office' meeting has got to be tough. Especially as his wife just stopped working and he's probably going to have to work overtime just to keep up with car payments.
The last post was unbeliveably realistic (and thus hilarious)... Where are those picture that you were talking about archigrl? I need a good laugh to relax for being at the office at 8 pm and knowing that I won't get home anytime soon...
I think that it’s great that someone in Hollywood is interested in architecture. Maybe in the future because of his interest when you open up a copy of architectural digest and see homes of the stars it won't be a bunch of ghastly mcmansions that recall theme restaurant designs or Rocco period homes. Maybe his own interest will change the US consumers housing choices and develop a new wave of architectural awareness similar to what happens in the fashion industry. I say give Mr. Pitt the keys to the AIA and hire him to do commercials for architecture.
i think MTV cribs has increased teenagers interest in pimped out interior design but it rarely addresses respectable architecture.
from what i've heard, brad pitt is relatively very knowledgable about current issues in architecture. given this, his relative good taste, and his popularity, i think his affiliation with the industry can only be a good thing.
it could make things much easier by having good architecture become a part of mainstream, but brad pitt?? i feel like i've entered the twilight zone...will beleive it when i see the pictures.
why not brad pitt?
I can't understand how anyone can see this as a negative.
He is a very talented actor, why not give him the benifite of the doubt and see what he does with this. Those that think it is not right cause he didn't go through what the rest of us have need to get over it. Things are not always fair.
And why is it hard to believe that he can become an architect?
I feel that Paul is right. Recently ( I cant recall which program) but BP was asked why he didnt just become an architect (the reporter/interviewer clearly showing the lack of knowledge about our profession); BP graciously answered "No, no, it takes 10-12 years to become an architect, and I just couldn't do that. I am a play architect"
At least the man recognizes and is willing to educate at the very least those that are watching the program, that our field is one of professionals. And I dont think that's such a bad thing!
i agree he can become a good spokesperson, but i think it is unrealistic to believe that he will or can dedicate the time necessary for it to become more than a hobby. yes, he can do it. anybody can do it. even my mom. but is he ready to refocus his career? he may prove me wrong, but i won't hold my breath.
ok ok
look, i'm not trying to be negative, it's just that this is the first time i've even heard about this, and of all the hollywood actors to be associated with a serious and dedicated profession, mr. pitt would have probably been my last guess. i would have gone through a couple of the indi film stars first...
if he is even relatively knowledgable about architecture and really willing to learn(and to teach the mainstream public)about our profession, i would have to say go for it.
you guys are right, it can only better the profession at large to have the general public begin to recognize and appreciate the part that architecture & the field plays.
an actor wants to be an architect? whaaaaaaaaat!? oh, ok next you are going to tell me that 2 actors will become governors of kaliphonia(california in arnold speak) and that one would be president, rigggggght...ohhh shit!
no seriously if achilies wants to be an architect cool, universities around the nation are accepting applications as we speak and im sure financial aid wont be a problem for him. oh wait he doesnt want to go through 5 years or more of hell, errr school, playboy just wants to roll in, learn some cad, and start designing? what a disrespectfull prick, like someone walking in off the street could perform surgery just because he/she reads health magazines! if brad thinks he is doing the profession any favors by helping architects appeal to a broader audience he is WRONG! by not putting in the hours/days/months/years necessary to attempt to learn something about architecture he is only lessening the standing of the profession and of its true participants!
I agree with Paul. I found that there are alot of architects who are very disturbed by Pitt wanting to study architecture. I believe I have read that he does not even want to be registered, just study it. I know that for the most part architects have enormous egos, myself included...but i dont see why it shoudl be a bad thing if someone on another profession should show interest in ours. I have a interest in graphic design. If i went to school or studied under a graphic designer I would be very upset if the profession looked down upon me for my extended interest. I think we need to suck it up and be happy that someone as prominant as Pitt, who has no need, besides personal interest, to study architecture. makes an attempt to do so. The majority of the worlds population could give a rats ass about architecture or design. I say put Pitt in AIA commercials, let him lecture (if he has anything worthwhile to talk about), and let him open some eyes..even if only because "Brad does it".
BP's interest in architecture is old news... he was at rem's ucla lecture like 3 years ago. if he has a genuine desire to learn something different from his profession, good for him.
what disturbs me is the likes of dodd mitchell who gets job after job designing clubs and restaurants and he dropped out of high school. i admire him as well-- if someone is talented, clever, and lucky enough to avoid archi school, they have my respect.
what i can't understand is the territorial machismo of this thread.
If he has the passion and interest, and the intellectual ability
(but of course he doesn't because he's a Hollywood actor, right guys?)
to drive him in what seems to be a labor in love, the more power to him.
If you can recall, a certain Japanese boxer taught himself architecture through rigorous self-study and travel, I think his last name was Ando or something? ;)
I was in a job in school that had me dealing with the public on a daily basis (architecture book store). I lost count of the amount of other professionals who expressed a desire to learn more about architecture, and even regret at being doctors, lawyers, developers etc.
Pitt is just the same. I commend anyone who wants to learn more about architecture (aside from blessed FLW who everyone seems to know). It makes for a more educated public and more educated clients. Clients who know who Eames is are rare but delightful.
Lets hope Pitt's taste runs in opposition to mock French Provincial, and from what I have read and seen, it seems to. Even if we dont get paid as much as other professions, at least we have an aura of nobility and mystique which is always attractive (otherwise, why are we here?).
As I recall Prince Charles was working with Leon Krier. So Brad has much better taste, and is about 200 years ahead of Charles idiologially.
Not that Brad wants to pursue it, but if he did, it's still not a requirement to have a degree in architecture to obtain a liscence to practice in some states.
I don't believe Frank Lloyd Wright, Le Corbusier or Mies van der Rohe have the "credentials" to be a licensed architect under present legislation.
I've never met the guy, but I can guarntee you he's more dedicated, focused and genuinly interest in architecture than half the people I met in school (a good deal of whom will presumably be architects someday).
Quite frankly I think the best way to start a career in architecutre is being independantly wealthy. If I had it to do over again, that's the route I'd take.
There was also that really disturbing statistic of the average archtiects career was 10 years, so obviously architects are switching careers as well (or there is some vital info missing from that statisitc, which I'm sure is at least partly true).
I agree with Psycho-mullet I don't know how many times I've heard both buildes and designers say" this job would be so much better without clients". It has always been said that the Patkaus started with a couple of projects from family friends and never really had to work at being financially successful. For many years they toiled away with a couple house projects, taught a little but somehow managed to build themselves a pretty nice house in a very nice part of Vancouver's west side. Go figure!
Back to Mr. Pitt, if he increases the public eye on Architecture and educates the general public above "trading spaces et al " it can 't be bad. As they say in Hollywood " publicity good or bad is better than no publicity" ro something like that.
I'm just hoping that Brad paves the way for our offices own celebrity intern. The rest of the office is pulling for Erik Estrada, but I'm still holding out for Britney.
honestly when people ask me what i do for a living and i tell them i'm an architect they respond with, "oh like George from Seinfield" or "Vandaly"
Maybe in a year or two people will say "oh like brad pitt"
that is fine with me, at least he is a real person.
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with the likes "MTV Cribs", we should be glad that BP is showing interest in REAL architecture. Cribs shows homes that honestly dont exhibit anything of what interesting, unique architecture has the potential of being.
It goes to show how much (how little really) our "celebrity" population has been educated about architecture in totality when P. Diddy or Hillary Duff show the world their faux-Palladian Villa with 12 pools and arched-entry poolhouses the size of a midtown apartment complex.
ridiculous.
i ask myself all the time who would consciously build this monstrosity over and over? is it the same firm for every celebrity?
I see it as- with BP not being a total idiot, he should realize that the profession is not going to be mastered in a year. (I think he had mentioned that in an interview at some point) However- he is filthy rich, and when you combine the yearn to be close to architecture with oodles and oodles of cash, influence, and connections you have a winning recipe for being able to permeate the generally underinformed public about what architecture really is..
and what architect in here wouldnt do the same if they had the mula to do it with? maybe the green isn't the first priority in our pursuit of design (no jokes please, it CANT be the first priority with the average paystub for an arch) but in that area he's at a level where most would like to reach. he's just doing something with it...
BEFORE BECOMMING AN ACTOR BRAD PITT STUDIED ARCHITECTURE IN SCHOOL , I THINK IN OKLAHOMA. NOT TO WHAT DEGREE HE STUDIED TO BUT HE IS SINCERELY INTERESTED, I HAVE SEEN HIM AT LECTURES AROUND LOS ANGELES.
Art Vandelay, MTV Cribs, Trading Spaces, Bob Villa, Architectural Digest ... and now Brad Pitt... these are the genes of contemporary architecture that the public digests. mmm.
architecture is a very silly profession, all caught up in itself....and people wonder why i make fun of my own job. i think brad pitt would make a great architect. after all, have you seen his chiseled jaw?! he's obviously a talented guy; i'm sure there are people in this forum who probably would've made a lot better actors without even realizing it so there's no reason why this guy can't design buildings. even if he hasn't been through the so called indoctrination process most of the people in this world responsible for all the crapitecture that's been going on have; i'm not entirely convinced there is a solid correlation between design ability and formal credentials. besides, he's in no way disrespected the profession.....anyone have a link to the topic info?
sad people are actually putting hope into a movie star with an interest in architecture to help educate the public and give lectures...lol I mean wha the fuck would he lecture about he is a fucking movie star with no formal education in our profession end of story...he might play a savior in movies but he will not save our professions sorry ass
i wasn't aware that our profession's sorry ass was in need of being 'saved' or that any interest in a famous actor's involvement was about saving it in some way.
who said anything about him lecturing? you a mind reader??
bp should not lecture anywhere. read more carefully next time: "able to permeate the generally underinformed public about what architecture really is.. does not mean lecturing. it means exposure. trading spaces exposure. mtv cribs exposure. through him- a catalyst in sorts- cool archies could strut real design out there....
they asked him to sit in the panel with gehry et all at that urban conference in downtown LA a little while back but he refused, so I wouldn't feel too threatened. if he wants to pursue his interest in architecture then right on. at some point in time the profession got a country-club mentality....
Brad Pitt -- future architect
this is such a joke---- posing for pictures w/ Frank as part of his "dream team," submitting "decor designs" to Rande Gerber, and taking a year off from acting to learn the "craft" and software.
i'm famous, good looking, and have lots of money. hmmm, what will i become today? possibly, a rocket scientist? hmmm...
please please will someone give me the direct line to his 'cubie' - i just want to give it to the guys at Crank Yankers so they can call and scream about 'where are the drawings?', 'have you finished the damn redlines yet?' and 'no you can't go home at 9pm we have a freaking deadline...'.
Actually we should be nice -being 40 and attending your first internship 'introduction to the office' meeting has got to be tough. Especially as his wife just stopped working and he's probably going to have to work overtime just to keep up with car payments.
The last post was unbeliveably realistic (and thus hilarious)... Where are those picture that you were talking about archigrl? I need a good laugh to relax for being at the office at 8 pm and knowing that I won't get home anytime soon...
I think that it’s great that someone in Hollywood is interested in architecture. Maybe in the future because of his interest when you open up a copy of architectural digest and see homes of the stars it won't be a bunch of ghastly mcmansions that recall theme restaurant designs or Rocco period homes. Maybe his own interest will change the US consumers housing choices and develop a new wave of architectural awareness similar to what happens in the fashion industry. I say give Mr. Pitt the keys to the AIA and hire him to do commercials for architecture.
and your saying MTV cribs hasn't done that already?
Has it?
i have no problem with pitt's interest in architecture, but to think he can become an architect is a joke.
i'm kidding.
there is also Dwell TV
i think MTV cribs has increased teenagers interest in pimped out interior design but it rarely addresses respectable architecture.
from what i've heard, brad pitt is relatively very knowledgable about current issues in architecture. given this, his relative good taste, and his popularity, i think his affiliation with the industry can only be a good thing.
it could make things much easier by having good architecture become a part of mainstream, but brad pitt?? i feel like i've entered the twilight zone...will beleive it when i see the pictures.
why not brad pitt?
I can't understand how anyone can see this as a negative.
He is a very talented actor, why not give him the benifite of the doubt and see what he does with this. Those that think it is not right cause he didn't go through what the rest of us have need to get over it. Things are not always fair.
And why is it hard to believe that he can become an architect?
I feel that Paul is right. Recently ( I cant recall which program) but BP was asked why he didnt just become an architect (the reporter/interviewer clearly showing the lack of knowledge about our profession); BP graciously answered "No, no, it takes 10-12 years to become an architect, and I just couldn't do that. I am a play architect"
At least the man recognizes and is willing to educate at the very least those that are watching the program, that our field is one of professionals. And I dont think that's such a bad thing!
Prince Charles tried to do the same thing in England. Anyone over there have an opinion of whether it has any positive effect on the profession?
i agree he can become a good spokesperson, but i think it is unrealistic to believe that he will or can dedicate the time necessary for it to become more than a hobby. yes, he can do it. anybody can do it. even my mom. but is he ready to refocus his career? he may prove me wrong, but i won't hold my breath.
ok ok
look, i'm not trying to be negative, it's just that this is the first time i've even heard about this, and of all the hollywood actors to be associated with a serious and dedicated profession, mr. pitt would have probably been my last guess. i would have gone through a couple of the indi film stars first...
if he is even relatively knowledgable about architecture and really willing to learn(and to teach the mainstream public)about our profession, i would have to say go for it.
you guys are right, it can only better the profession at large to have the general public begin to recognize and appreciate the part that architecture & the field plays.
an actor wants to be an architect? whaaaaaaaaat!? oh, ok next you are going to tell me that 2 actors will become governors of kaliphonia(california in arnold speak) and that one would be president, rigggggght...ohhh shit!
no seriously if achilies wants to be an architect cool, universities around the nation are accepting applications as we speak and im sure financial aid wont be a problem for him. oh wait he doesnt want to go through 5 years or more of hell, errr school, playboy just wants to roll in, learn some cad, and start designing? what a disrespectfull prick, like someone walking in off the street could perform surgery just because he/she reads health magazines! if brad thinks he is doing the profession any favors by helping architects appeal to a broader audience he is WRONG! by not putting in the hours/days/months/years necessary to attempt to learn something about architecture he is only lessening the standing of the profession and of its true participants!
I agree with Paul. I found that there are alot of architects who are very disturbed by Pitt wanting to study architecture. I believe I have read that he does not even want to be registered, just study it. I know that for the most part architects have enormous egos, myself included...but i dont see why it shoudl be a bad thing if someone on another profession should show interest in ours. I have a interest in graphic design. If i went to school or studied under a graphic designer I would be very upset if the profession looked down upon me for my extended interest. I think we need to suck it up and be happy that someone as prominant as Pitt, who has no need, besides personal interest, to study architecture. makes an attempt to do so. The majority of the worlds population could give a rats ass about architecture or design. I say put Pitt in AIA commercials, let him lecture (if he has anything worthwhile to talk about), and let him open some eyes..even if only because "Brad does it".
BUT... i do agree with third about his presumption in the part he wants to play in the design --
wait a minute--is he trying to get some background research for an up-coming movie about FLW???
ok, this is driving me crazy..post a news link, PLEASE!!
BP's interest in architecture is old news... he was at rem's ucla lecture like 3 years ago. if he has a genuine desire to learn something different from his profession, good for him.
what disturbs me is the likes of dodd mitchell who gets job after job designing clubs and restaurants and he dropped out of high school. i admire him as well-- if someone is talented, clever, and lucky enough to avoid archi school, they have my respect.
what i can't understand is the territorial machismo of this thread.
If he has the passion and interest, and the intellectual ability
(but of course he doesn't because he's a Hollywood actor, right guys?)
to drive him in what seems to be a labor in love, the more power to him.
If you can recall, a certain Japanese boxer taught himself architecture through rigorous self-study and travel, I think his last name was Ando or something? ;)
I was in a job in school that had me dealing with the public on a daily basis (architecture book store). I lost count of the amount of other professionals who expressed a desire to learn more about architecture, and even regret at being doctors, lawyers, developers etc.
Pitt is just the same. I commend anyone who wants to learn more about architecture (aside from blessed FLW who everyone seems to know). It makes for a more educated public and more educated clients. Clients who know who Eames is are rare but delightful.
Lets hope Pitt's taste runs in opposition to mock French Provincial, and from what I have read and seen, it seems to. Even if we dont get paid as much as other professions, at least we have an aura of nobility and mystique which is always attractive (otherwise, why are we here?).
Maybe Brad and Oscar De La Hoya can start their own firm when they're ready!
As I recall Prince Charles was working with Leon Krier. So Brad has much better taste, and is about 200 years ahead of Charles idiologially.
Not that Brad wants to pursue it, but if he did, it's still not a requirement to have a degree in architecture to obtain a liscence to practice in some states.
I don't believe Frank Lloyd Wright, Le Corbusier or Mies van der Rohe have the "credentials" to be a licensed architect under present legislation.
I've never met the guy, but I can guarntee you he's more dedicated, focused and genuinly interest in architecture than half the people I met in school (a good deal of whom will presumably be architects someday).
Quite frankly I think the best way to start a career in architecutre is being independantly wealthy. If I had it to do over again, that's the route I'd take.
There was also that really disturbing statistic of the average archtiects career was 10 years, so obviously architects are switching careers as well (or there is some vital info missing from that statisitc, which I'm sure is at least partly true).
I agree with Psycho-mullet I don't know how many times I've heard both buildes and designers say" this job would be so much better without clients". It has always been said that the Patkaus started with a couple of projects from family friends and never really had to work at being financially successful. For many years they toiled away with a couple house projects, taught a little but somehow managed to build themselves a pretty nice house in a very nice part of Vancouver's west side. Go figure!
Back to Mr. Pitt, if he increases the public eye on Architecture and educates the general public above "trading spaces et al " it can 't be bad. As they say in Hollywood " publicity good or bad is better than no publicity" ro something like that.
Rem was in the movies before he became an architect.
Those people who think that BP can not show an interest in architecture should stop watching movies.
He is more successful than any of us will ever be.
depends on how u measure sucess mdler
and btw, those of you that want Brad Pitt in our profession, how many of you are girls? I'm just curious...
I'm just hoping that Brad paves the way for our offices own celebrity intern. The rest of the office is pulling for Erik Estrada, but I'm still holding out for Britney.
celebrity intern...Colin Farrell, who better to tell the boss to fuck off then go take the office for a drink and a fag
Mr. Smithers interns at our office doing color/paint pallet choosing.
honestly when people ask me what i do for a living and i tell them i'm an architect they respond with, "oh like George from Seinfield" or "Vandaly"
Maybe in a year or two people will say "oh like brad pitt"
that is fine with me, at least he is a real person.
WELL....
HEEEEEELLOOOOOOOO, LA LA LA.....
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note to self.
with the likes "MTV Cribs", we should be glad that BP is showing interest in REAL architecture. Cribs shows homes that honestly dont exhibit anything of what interesting, unique architecture has the potential of being.
It goes to show how much (how little really) our "celebrity" population has been educated about architecture in totality when P. Diddy or Hillary Duff show the world their faux-Palladian Villa with 12 pools and arched-entry poolhouses the size of a midtown apartment complex.
ridiculous.
i ask myself all the time who would consciously build this monstrosity over and over? is it the same firm for every celebrity?
I see it as- with BP not being a total idiot, he should realize that the profession is not going to be mastered in a year. (I think he had mentioned that in an interview at some point) However- he is filthy rich, and when you combine the yearn to be close to architecture with oodles and oodles of cash, influence, and connections you have a winning recipe for being able to permeate the generally underinformed public about what architecture really is..
and what architect in here wouldnt do the same if they had the mula to do it with? maybe the green isn't the first priority in our pursuit of design (no jokes please, it CANT be the first priority with the average paystub for an arch) but in that area he's at a level where most would like to reach. he's just doing something with it...
Since when have it been bad that people want to study something just to learn it.
Many here talk about him as if he is taking away their jobs or something.
The man is actually a pretty smart guy so I wouldnt be surprised that he find craft like architecture interesting.
And furtheremore btw. the more people who are interested in arcitecture, the more jobs for you all.
BEFORE BECOMMING AN ACTOR BRAD PITT STUDIED ARCHITECTURE IN SCHOOL , I THINK IN OKLAHOMA. NOT TO WHAT DEGREE HE STUDIED TO BUT HE IS SINCERELY INTERESTED, I HAVE SEEN HIM AT LECTURES AROUND LOS ANGELES.
Brad Vandelay & Associates here
Art Vandelay, MTV Cribs, Trading Spaces, Bob Villa, Architectural Digest ... and now Brad Pitt... these are the genes of contemporary architecture that the public digests. mmm.
I THINK HE'S GOING TO KICK ASS BECAUSE HE'S NICE AND SHIT!
oi.
architecture is a very silly profession, all caught up in itself....and people wonder why i make fun of my own job. i think brad pitt would make a great architect. after all, have you seen his chiseled jaw?! he's obviously a talented guy; i'm sure there are people in this forum who probably would've made a lot better actors without even realizing it so there's no reason why this guy can't design buildings. even if he hasn't been through the so called indoctrination process most of the people in this world responsible for all the crapitecture that's been going on have; i'm not entirely convinced there is a solid correlation between design ability and formal credentials. besides, he's in no way disrespected the profession.....anyone have a link to the topic info?
sad people are actually putting hope into a movie star with an interest in architecture to help educate the public and give lectures...lol I mean wha the fuck would he lecture about he is a fucking movie star with no formal education in our profession end of story...he might play a savior in movies but he will not save our professions sorry ass
i wasn't aware that our profession's sorry ass was in need of being 'saved' or that any interest in a famous actor's involvement was about saving it in some way.
and... Pitt & Gehry
he likes Interpol
interpol SUCKS. total crap
icup
who said anything about him lecturing? you a mind reader??
bp should not lecture anywhere. read more carefully next time: "able to permeate the generally underinformed public about what architecture really is.. does not mean lecturing. it means exposure. trading spaces exposure. mtv cribs exposure. through him- a catalyst in sorts- cool archies could strut real design out there....
without the commercialism, of course.
in the Charlie Rose interview a few weeks back, BP said that he is considering playing Howard Roark in a Fountainhead remake. He is so dreamy
they asked him to sit in the panel with gehry et all at that urban conference in downtown LA a little while back but he refused, so I wouldn't feel too threatened. if he wants to pursue his interest in architecture then right on. at some point in time the profession got a country-club mentality....
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