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Help: Bioclimatic chart for places more than 1000' above sea level?? PRINT VERSION GO TO BOTTOM
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11/04/09 21:43
Perhaps one of you Earth loving archipals awake on the West Coast can refer me to a bioclimatic chart for places 1000 feet above sea level?

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make

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11/04/09 21:47
That request doesn't make any sense. You can make one with the temperature and humidity information provided by a nearby airport.

Have you made one before? I can explain if you haven't.
Orochi

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11/04/09 21:53
you could uh... consult the USGS.

http://pubs.er.usgs.gov/usgspubs/sim/sim3084
Orochi

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11/04/09 21:54
http://rmgsc.cr.usgs.gov/ecosystems/dataviewer.shtml

I am so disappointed I don't have a real job.
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11/04/09 21:55
"The chart is applicable to inhabitants of the moderate climate zones in elevations not in excess of 1000 feet above sea level in comfortable clothes..."

I know how to construct a specific locations' monthly average lines on the chart itself, however tonight I am in search of the chart off of which to base my elevated city. You know, where the comfort zone is perhaps a different shape in a different position?

Hope this clears up my request.
Orochi

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11/04/09 21:57
Cross Reference USDA hardiness zones with USGS Isobioclimates in ArcGIS.

DUR.
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11/04/09 22:01
I am also disappointed you don't have a real job.

Didn't see your posts before I posted myself.

How much cents/sense am I making?
Orochi

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11/04/09 22:18
Oh you're making sense.

My experience with these kind of charts is essentially what the given mean annual lows and highs with record highs and lows distributed over an annual period overlaying a graph of recorded humidity ranges.

I.e., January 31-63; record low 12, record high 69 with average humidity between 35-55%.

They are useful if you're doing what I was doing and that is romping around mountain ranges looking for endangered weeds that have an incredibly weird and specific climate.

Now, my understand in architectural sense would be using this data to construct graphs that show when various stages of HVAC systems should turn on or off.

I believe temperature is on the y-axis, humidity on the x-axis.

And you'll have fairly blobby but formulaic (rhombus, ovals, parallelograms, triangles) plot areas for when certain systems should be on and should be off.

There should probably be some sort of reference guide for making your own charts given a specific location and time frame.

This will enable you to determine the "comfort" zone for that particular area.
Orochi

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11/04/09 23:03
shhh, http://www.daymet.org/DailySummary.do

all you got to do is find a x,y coordinate and plot it.
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11/04/09 23:34
I repeat to all users out there:

I know how to construct/overlay a city's temperature/humidity on the bioclimatic chart. However, I repeat:

"The chart is applicable to inhabitants of the moderate climate zones in elevations not in excess of 1000 feet above sea level in comfortable clothes..."

I only have the chart applicable to cities < 1000' above sea level. However, I am researching a city well above that limit (around 4500') and am searching for a chart applicable to this elevation, which I hypothesize will have a slightly different, yet still imperative, comfort zone shape/position on the chart.

In hindsight, I should have started this project earlier...
make

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11/05/09 8:39
Here's a chart for Salt Lake City which is at 4200 feet ofaltitude. I don't see any difference. (I will pull out my copy of Sun, Wind and Light when I am at school.)

http://160.36.48.42/cdr/ClimateContext/downloads/Salt%20Lake.pdf
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11/05/09 9:37
energy plus and various other programs can provide psychromentric charts (if that is what you are seeking). you'll find the programs and data at the eere site.
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