Excerpt from a press release issued by the Mayor's office today:
Emblematic of the scale and scope of the development opportunity on Governors Island, architect Santiago Calatrava has provided on a pro-bono basis (with the assistance of STV Inc. and Leitner-Poma of America) renderings and related design work for an aerial gondola that could, if constructed, provide connections between Governors Island, Brooklyn and Lower Manhattan.
Is there a bigger pic? Doesn't look half bad to me, an interesting suspended structure of some kind. Actually more "sane" than the cube thing that is supposed to go up along the East River downtown.
At a cost of $125 million build a gondola from both Manhattan and Brooklyn to the island. It would leave every four minutes and could move six-thousand people an hour.
"'pro bono' - yes you bastard, do free work for the city with all the free interns slaving under you, and smaller people and firms get screwed...."
anybody know whether the part about unpaid interns is true ?
if so, you might want to let aia know, because they really don't like giving design awards -- much less their Gold Medal -- to architects who use unpaid interns
- "the AIA really doesn't like doing anything" - what the heck does that mean ?
... there is a perpetual string of posts here about the abuse of unpaid interns ... the aia has a strict policy about not giving recognition to any architect who uses unpaid interns ... does your post mean you support the idea of using unpaid interns ?
I really don't think many firms would not pay anythign. And if they did, they'd be smart enought to classify it as something other than an 'employee'.
The issue should more be, are they paying minimum wages?
My guess is Calatrava is rolling in it and can afford to pay at least minimum wages. He is actually building tons of large projects, unlike firms like OMA or Lynn that barely build (although that's changing for OMA).
Or he's hiring out for the CDs, in which case it's not his concern (maybe morally, but not professionally - I hear that got some good drafters overseas!)
"At a cost of $125 million build a gondola from both Manhattan and Brooklyn to the island. It would leave every four minutes and could move six-thousand people an hour. "
Passenger boats (ferries) are expensive. I think they range in the $30-80 million range now.
Although 6,000 people an hour is patently retarded.
The average New York ferry has a capacity of about 4,500 people. And at 15 minutes a trip, you can pick up 4 boat loads of people per hour.
That essentially gives this a capacity of about 18,000 people per hour per stop. Given that, a commercial boat has a life span of about 12-15 years.
So given 2 ferry in operation, with each making two full round trips, the cost per rider is roughly (assuming a $50,000,000 boat.... no interest, no maintenance) $0.04 at constant full capacity.
Caltrava's little gondola, on the other hand, will run a cost of about $0.08 a ride.
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Calatrava lost his mind
Excerpt from a press release issued by the Mayor's office today:
Emblematic of the scale and scope of the development opportunity on Governors Island, architect Santiago Calatrava has provided on a pro-bono basis (with the assistance of STV Inc. and Leitner-Poma of America) renderings and related design work for an aerial gondola that could, if constructed, provide connections between Governors Island, Brooklyn and Lower Manhattan.
link, nyc.gov: VISIONARY IDEAS FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF GOVERNORS ISLAND
Is there a bigger pic? Doesn't look half bad to me, an interesting suspended structure of some kind. Actually more "sane" than the cube thing that is supposed to go up along the East River downtown.
yeah. looks fine to me. hard to tell at that res
At a cost of $125 million build a gondola from both Manhattan and Brooklyn to the island. It would leave every four minutes and could move six-thousand people an hour.
where is the new press release?
i wanna ride in a gonorhea!
'pro bono' - yes you bastard, do free work for the city with all the free interns slaving under you, and smaller people and firms get screwed....
I'll give you a ride in my gonorhea, pro bono, vado!
I would pay $15 to ride on a roller coaster designed by Calatrava. I would spend $5 on his gondolas.
the pro bono will probably change into rip-off if the project gets underway - There's no such thing as a free lunch.
more like pro-bono publicity
Do you mean he's lost his mind BECAUSE it's pro-bono?
pro-bono? what if the studio just photoshopped a project for the swiss alps or something?
what would Bono do???
anybody know whether the part about unpaid interns is true ?
if so, you might want to let aia know, because they really don't like giving design awards -- much less their Gold Medal -- to architects who use unpaid interns
he only hires the managers brother - remember that u2 tower debacle
so sorry calatrava, unless you're related to the band you're out of luck
the AIA really doesn't like doing anything
- "the AIA really doesn't like doing anything" - what the heck does that mean ?
... there is a perpetual string of posts here about the abuse of unpaid interns ... the aia has a strict policy about not giving recognition to any architect who uses unpaid interns ... does your post mean you support the idea of using unpaid interns ?
I really don't think many firms would not pay anythign. And if they did, they'd be smart enought to classify it as something other than an 'employee'.
The issue should more be, are they paying minimum wages?
My guess is Calatrava is rolling in it and can afford to pay at least minimum wages. He is actually building tons of large projects, unlike firms like OMA or Lynn that barely build (although that's changing for OMA).
Or he's hiring out for the CDs, in which case it's not his concern (maybe morally, but not professionally - I hear that got some good drafters overseas!)
link to NYtimes article
the little pods make it look like someones unraveled the london 'eye'.
It looks a lil' too flimsy, even by clatrava standards ..
"At a cost of $125 million build a gondola from both Manhattan and Brooklyn to the island. It would leave every four minutes and could move six-thousand people an hour. "
---WOW !!!
probably a LOT cheaper than a subway tunnel, tho.
u mean like a cable car system?
I love Calatrava...but why not just take a boat?
because then you can't make a sexy suspension structure.
is it true he makes his staffers address him as "maestro" in the office? somebody told me that...
Passenger boats (ferries) are expensive. I think they range in the $30-80 million range now.
Although 6,000 people an hour is patently retarded.
The average New York ferry has a capacity of about 4,500 people. And at 15 minutes a trip, you can pick up 4 boat loads of people per hour.
That essentially gives this a capacity of about 18,000 people per hour per stop. Given that, a commercial boat has a life span of about 12-15 years.
So given 2 ferry in operation, with each making two full round trips, the cost per rider is roughly (assuming a $50,000,000 boat.... no interest, no maintenance) $0.04 at constant full capacity.
Caltrava's little gondola, on the other hand, will run a cost of about $0.08 a ride.
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