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skunst

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02/07/06 14:35

Maybe you share my fashination for houses in the desert, or wider : houses in remote areas , in lonely extreme conditions .
This house is by Rick Joy architects .
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Online

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02/07/06 15:13
Rick Joy is awesome!!!
vado retro

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02/07/06 17:20
who is that wonderful archinecter who pulled all nighters with rick joy???oh yeah, now i remember...
Online

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02/07/06 22:14
Does anyone have any oyher pics of Rick Joy's work?
Medit

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02/08/06 12:52
this book has other pics of Rick Joy's work.. and plans .. and fabulous panoramas of the desert mountains (the Tubac House, the Tucson Mountain House), a foreword by Holl and an intro by Pallasmaa... highly recommended for desert lovers:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1568983360?v=glance
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02/08/06 13:09
I don't have a picture of Rick Joy's work (the monograph is worth it) but I did just come across a picture of him and my business partner in the UofA architecture studios circa 1988 at probably 3AM...aaah, good times...
skunst

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02/08/06 13:19

I love the Tubac house
specialy the way the concrete wall is made
momentum

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02/08/06 15:02
isn't it rammed earth? not necessarily concrete?
skunst

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02/08/06 15:04
possibly right , thanks
skunst

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02/08/06 15:05
I would like to make concrete in that way , (steal ideas hahaha)
snooker

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02/08/06 15:21
Eddie Jones does alot of wonderful desert work so I thought I might include him for your viewing: http://www.jonesstudioinc.com/
snooker

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02/08/06 15:25
There is also Will Bruder who also works out of the Phoenix Arizona area: http://www.willbruder.com/
snooker

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02/08/06 15:30
Here is another one, dancing in the sunlight: http://www.sliceobisbee.com/UBisFeatures/TubWView.html
snooker

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02/08/06 15:35
This guy Liberty Bell most likely knows cause he always put on great parties in Tucon. http://vanity.qwestdex.com/pauledwardsstudio/Page4.html
snooker

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02/08/06 15:38
oh ya I did forget one firm in tucson: http://www.lineandspace.com/main/

It is a bit of a difficult site to filter thru but well worth the effort.
skunst

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02/08/06 15:38
Snooker thanks I am realy exited , Jones studio is fantastic.
going to look at the otherones
skunst

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02/08/06 15:40
for example scorpion house , wow
skunst

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02/08/06 15:44
Todd bogatay , I don't like so much
snooker

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02/08/06 16:34
I doubt if you will find anything on the net about William Wilde, but he was an early an early modernist that came to Tucson and did have a good run of projects. I do know of one house nestled up against the
Catalina Mountains which just looked so much like the landscape that it was hard to believe it was a house. I did have the opportunity to view drawings of the house in an architectural studio while at the University of Arizona. My prof. McNeil ask the class to identify there favorite piece of architecture in Tucson. Well we had all of the expected, but I personally was fond of this little two story commerical office building on Broadway Blvd., so I mentioned it as my favorite. Turns out McNeil worked for William Wilde for a period of time and he had photos and a set of drawings so he excitely brought them to studio to show us how it was really done. To this day I believe it was one of the most important works of Architecture I have encountered.


Todd does have some nice work burried somewhere, doubt if it is on the net.
liberty bell

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02/08/06 16:37
snooker if I ever went to a Paul Edwards party I was, um, enjoying myself far too much to remember it.
snooker

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02/08/06 16:40
Another person who did a sparing amount of work in Tucson was Dominique Bonomour. She was a good friend of mine, born in France,
studied in Switzerland, and France. Came to America via Canada. She was a principle at CNWC Architect in Tucson and also taught at the Univeristy of Arizona. She did a number of presentations at conferences. Sorry to say she is no longer with us, and is certainly missed. She did have a fantastic understanding of the desert, we had many conversations about materials, light, scale, music, and all of the aesethics of life. I don't know if any of her residential work has ever been published.
snooker

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02/08/06 16:41
Liberty, Paul was always working on the next spring fling....I do remember one in a garage with a mangled dragster... thought of it because of your husbands sculpture.
liberty bell

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02/08/06 16:43
Judith Chafee's Blackwell House in Tucson was phenonmenal - I saw it before it was demolished. What a friggin' mistake that was.

vado retro

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02/08/06 17:21
when i was in grad school judith chaffee came and gave a lecture. well, it was called a lecture. actually, what she did was play a tape of native birds chirping while showing her slides. it was quite the multi media extravaganza!!!
vado retro

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02/08/06 17:23
chupacabra

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02/08/06 17:27
Mary Hardin does great work. She spoke here at UNM last week about design build project she is doing at the University of Arizona.

She has used rammed earth alot, even creating their own fabrication techniques.

http://architecture.arizona.edu/architecture/faculty/hardin/projects2.htm
vado retro

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02/08/06 17:27
snooker

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02/08/06 18:45
I know Bill Cook also of the Uof A did a house in Senotia of Rammed Earth.

There was also Gomez....did alot of various kinds of work in Arizona...
worked on a project in Sedona with him where he did all the concept drawings on rolls of brown packaging paper. He was a master...Liberty might know him as he did a bank in the Camel Back Plaza in Phoenix.
skunst

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02/09/06 1:09
scopionhouse Jones arch.
skunst

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02/09/06 8:32
To stay in line whith the scorpionhous
found this on the site of organicarchitecture.tribe.net.
skunst

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02/09/06 8:33
sorry this horrible picture is for another topic
skunst

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02/09/06 8:35

this is the right one
also not nice I think
skunst

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02/09/06 8:38
Is this ok
I don't think so ....but
skunst

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02/09/06 8:39
skunst

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02/09/06 8:41
what is so terrible about this
skunst

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02/09/06 8:48
This is a deserthouse by k.kellog


much nicer I think , but what is wrong whith it ????
something itches
chupacabra

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02/09/06 9:51
Don't forget all the eartships out on the west mesa outside of Taos.
http://www.earthship.org/

FRO

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02/09/06 11:38
this is my favorite thread lately- makes me want to quit my job and move back to NM and find a cheap 100 acres. (and I LOVE it where I am now.)

But c'mon -- rammed earth, earthships, the desert...... heaven on earth I tell ya...
Orhan Ayyüce

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02/09/06 12:11
nader khalili
snooker

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02/09/06 12:32
Here is a site of early desert houses: http://sacredsites.com/americas/united_states/chaco_canyon.html
snooker

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02/09/06 12:39
Oh ya there is also Bart Prince: A desert Architect in New Mexico:
http://bartprince.com/
skunst

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02/09/06 12:52
The chaco Canyon complex looks realy special and allmost from out of space
skunst

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02/09/06 13:01


The first bart price seems to say : " I ignore this desert"
The second one : " I am embedded"
What is better ?
Orhan Ayyüce

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02/09/06 13:16

albert frey
skunst

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02/09/06 13:17
Looking for nader khalill , found this in saveh Iran, very special
skunst

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02/09/06 13:25
Bam ( Iran)
skunst

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02/09/06 13:30

yazd , Iran
Orhan Ayyüce

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02/09/06 13:38

mardin, turkey

harran, turkey
skunst

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02/09/06 13:49
skunst

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02/09/06 14:00

Belmobthouse
Hariri&Hariri
skunst

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02/09/06 14:01
(Belmont)
snooker

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02/09/06 17:36
skunst here is another one of Bruce Goffs former Students in Southern California around San Diego: http://www.hubbellandhubbell.com/
vado retro

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02/09/06 18:13
liberty bell

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02/09/06 18:40
Hey I went to school with one of the Hubbells, too! What am i doing living in the midwest?!?!?
vado retro

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02/09/06 19:57
have you forgotten so soon lb???

liberty bell

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02/09/06 21:00
In Bisbee Arizona you can stay at the Shady Dell RV Park which is a hotel where the rooms are all individual Airstream trailers.



Not exactly "desert architecture" but great for a road trip.
Metaphoracle

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02/09/06 21:46
NEXT:

http://www.robpaulus.com/projects/res_multiple/bmet.html
jump

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02/09/06 23:52
not sure if deep desert enough for yall, but steve holl's turbulence house in new mexico is quite nice


skunst

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02/10/06 6:24
Galipoli house Philip Jhnson . Alan richie
Nevermore

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02/10/06 6:35
Strange that noone here is familiar with Hassan Fathy ? ( the egyptian architect ).
as far as I know he's acknowledged as the all time master of contemporary desert architecture .
skunst

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02/10/06 6:43
Found this house by Fathy
Nevermore

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02/10/06 6:56
skunst here are a few of fathy's works






also we have a desert state in my country (India) called "rajasthan"

type "Rajasthan " in google image search.
you as a sculptor may like that kind of architecture

Nevermore

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02/10/06 7:12
skunst wrote :Maybe you share my fashination for houses in the desert, or wider : houses in remote areas , in lonely extreme conditions .



another spectrum....

Spiti Valley, a Buddhist mountain desert region (with a Tibetan culture) in the Indian Himalayan state of Himachal Pradesh .

talking abt extremes......The temperature here can fall from +5 deg Celcius to -50 degree celcius in less than 10 minutes. You can die of frostbite in bright daylight and even when there isnt a single flake of snow around.




skunst

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02/10/06 7:18

Great building this
The old sculpture from India , I already appreciated very much .
Recent sculptures don't know much about.
nevermore ,maybe you cab post an image in "favourit sculpture" forum
skunst

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02/10/06 7:21
skunst

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02/10/06 7:27
anotherone , I try one more time
Nevermore

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02/10/06 7:43
skunst, its ok, just post the link here. ill copy paste to my browser

these are in Ladakh( another cold desert region ) in India
( Ladakh->north of Kashmir )



skunst

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02/10/06 7:45

Found this strange building, astronimic observatory in Jaipur
skunst

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02/10/06 7:48
pictures well protected these day's.
Thanks for the special pic's neverore
Nevermore

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02/10/06 7:52
Yea skunst..thats the "jantar-mantar" in jaipur..yes its an ancient astronomical observatory that was made by the Indian emperors to calculate the planetary movements




& you're very welcome.
skunst

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02/10/06 7:56
very special how the stairs
skunst

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02/10/06 8:02
and these hemispherical sundial except functional , also very beautiful.

skunst

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02/10/06 8:05
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/cadrans-solaires/monde/jaipur/jaipur_uk.html
skunst

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02/10/06 9:52
Indoor skiing in dubai

skunst

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02/10/06 9:53
http://www.snopes.com/photos/architecture/indoorski.asp
skunst

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02/10/06 11:59
realize nowthe title of this topic is far to narrow .
some people chose to go and live in the desert , if they can afford it .
Others were born there , it was not a matter of choice.
The sometimes tough climatical circomstances are the same , but the solutions and possibilitys completely different .
I have a limited mind , in that sense that I look to much in an way of beauty and esthetics to architecture, must be because I am spoiled by a more or less luxureus life , and I am a sculptor.
On the other hand look at the buildings in Inda , Tibet,iran, Egypt , which are all in the catagory " people who are born in the desert , most of them are very beautifull , in the form follows function concept . some added whith symbolic sculptural "additions which seems to be totaly part of the structure.
The Jones/hardin/Joy/ prince/chafee ,mentioned here I think are very special.
Robpaulus I like because its affordable for people whith lower incomes,
but not so briljant in design.
Earthship and comparable arch. , refers to the ecological and honest materials
and seems to , refer to the often beautifull form follows functionbuildings mentioned on top of this little story ,but for me lack the real quality because they seem to lack the roots where the other buildings came from, in that way it is a step back for me , the materials are natural and therefore very good for the envirement , but sometimes the use of them and the shapes look a bit childish to me .
the Idea for organic architecture , is at the moment a diffus thing and should be much more precisely defined in different sections.
I am an amator who's just starting to learn
But I am learning fast here thanks to all the links one finds on this , site.




snooker

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02/10/06 16:26
skunt: In these post, you must also acknowledge Frank Lloyd Wrights move to the Desert when he was in his 70's. I would post a site but I'm sure you can find more than one. I have been in one of his homes in the Biltmore Subdivision along with many of the public buildings he was involved with in the Phoenix Area. I must say they are all special. I would also acknowledge the work of Bruce Goff as he does have a special house in the Tucson Foothills. I spent half a year living across the street from it. Even had the owner invite me over for a Neighborhood Block Watch Party. When ever I can figure out the posting of pictures I will post one for you.
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02/10/06 17:18
sharpie.

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02/11/06 6:36
good call on hasan fathy works, nevermore.
to add more to the list- some works by abdel wahed el wakil and rasem badran? these guys are more popular in the middle east and mostly associated with islamic buildings- nubian architects with contemporary vernacular designs.
vado retro

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02/11/06 16:02
just an fyi, my image post of hassan fathy appeared a day before nevermore's post. i dont know who designed the teepees...
momentum

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02/12/06 10:12




bruno house outside lubbock, texas (not exactly a desert, but damn close)
el jeffe

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02/12/06 10:21
el jeffe

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02/12/06 10:24
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02/12/06 11:59
momentum these are spetacular spaces , I just wonder what such destint design will cost in bended steel. Realy such designs are fabular I just wonder what skilled craftsmen that requier, must be expensive hands.
Still when I see such architecture, I know that in 3D-H there would be plenty different way's to provide the basic structure, I could provide a 3D-H structure with walls and floors , all structure in plain sheet material, a core that will survive as 16 millimeter sheet steel --- provide longlive in a desert shuld we say 1000 years ?
So what will the cost of the plumbing and steel works for just the basic structure in rigid steel ?
Providing cheap housing is a splendid challance , I just wonder if you realised that such structure can be produced at a third the cost , even cheaper , now recently I seen people entering the fora saying "I am an architect" , now if _you are an architect why is it you complain about brilliant idears ?
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02/12/06 12:04
I mean this ;


PerCorell

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02/12/06 12:17
Such design can be refined from a matrix of overlapping planes , the square cubes in this kind of structure are all equal all boxes ; a 3D-H structure can be "bricked" from "bricks" that just fit into the honeycomb boxes. ----- when the assembly framework is assembled you can "plug" all the square holes with a standard "profile" ,after that the surface are there rough as steel edges and core filling, Well even with today's technology it is easy to realise a 3D robot carrying a torch to melt and harden a cheramic surface, covering both isolation as steel framework edges.
Just wonder ; would you know any pictures from the construction of the building you display, or do things such as how to do the actural thing, ever come in mind ?
You see you can make things in crome plated gold ,but this don't benefit architecture , Im'e just here to point to the fact that I been on to 3D-H for 12 years, ---- architects seem to have learned a criminal mind ,they rob you right away, likewise Romans, but it is my experience that in particular architects, seem to crowd to rob just for the fun of it.
Anyway just want to say that I find this a splendid design, real or not also it would be the perfect example to prove a 3D-H to be four times as strong, nicer in real than rendered. And maby it can be made for less than 700 pr sq.feet.
momentum

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02/12/06 13:26
http://www.robertbruno.com/

follow this link and explore away if you must vindpust formerly known as Per, but please don't bring up the 3D-Honeycomb system when it comes to this project.

My advice, design a project from the ground up using your "3d system". Detail everything from the way it hits the ground to the way it meets the sky. Show us how you skin it and keep water out, show us how it will be cheaper and last 1000 years, show us this "3D robot carrying a torch to melt and harden a cheramic surface"... but please, please do it in its own discussion.
jump

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02/12/06 17:18
could be a fake per...

nearly 30 years to build is amazing, but bruno's house is really cool.

it would i think be not as nice if done with a honeycomb system anyway.
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