The new Scottish parliament building is the favourite - the other three buildings on the list are: Zaha Hadid's BMW central building in Leipzig, Germany;
O'Donnel and Tuomey's Lewis Glucksman gallery in Cork, Ireland;
and Will Alsop's Fawood children centre in Harlesden, London.
The winning building will be announced in the autumn.
What's your money on?
from the RIBA website:
The shortlist for the 10th anniversary RIBA Stirling Prize in association with The Architects’ Journal will be announced on 9 September 2005.
Yeh, I think your right stainB. Although it is a bridge not a building (a bridge has one before).
Gateshead Millenium Bridge
Of couse the formal anouncement of the shortlist for the 10th anniversary RIBA Stirling Prize will be announced on 9 September 2005. So there may be more surprises but I doubt it.
the project is great, but the detailing and the choice of materials (down to rmjm or whatever the name is) is apalling...it looks like a shopping centre, all those pastell colors...it's terrible, specially in relation to the heritage of a dead Architect who had a majestic eye for simple, pure materials.what is that panelling on the furniture?!and that carpet? look at iguallada, santa caterina ecc...
it should win, but as a celebration of Miralles' work, not for the finished buiding.
Otherwise go zaha go!
(man, is it normal to like someone's work so much? it's like i'm a 13 years old girl and she is a boyband...scary!)
personally, the interior looks like a set from harry potter... too many conflicting geometry with blank surfaces. Hopkins new parliment building in westminster has almost identical approach, arch ceiling, bay window, timber finishes etc. and fantastic detailing...
apparently they have had to put padding on the corner in front of the seat in the window because all the polititions were bangin' their heads off it if so this would also make the facades an even greater gimic would it not?
i'd agree that the pastel colour of the back wall is a bit weak, and the carpet is poor, but i'd still want to work there. I can't believe people could bang their heads on that angle!
Yup - a visual feast. I'm a big fan of Zaha. The more i look into this building the more I love the sculptural forms. Perfect for this industrial / high tech building.
phew, amazing stairs! for a moment i had a second thought for my fav... it's very geometrical and well composed... perhaps lacking the "fourth" space - time and sense of poetry?
Zaha getting it would be great as the whole concept to realisation is so prefectly done, and I think she will- although I worked on the Jubilee Library, so I have mixed and confused feelings!
I have to disagree with agfa8x on that MP office- that really does look bad- how can you concentrate on your work knowing you are directly above that carpet- and there's hardly any natural light in there either!
Miralles building should win by the sole fact that it cost a f**kin fortune to finish. All this against the backdrop of the well known tight fisted Scottish nation.
What's the difference between a tightrope and a Scotsman ? A tightrope sometimes gives.
Right. This 'prize' is something of a joke in my opinion, because within it appears once again another banal building from Foster, and a rather inhuman thing from Zaha. WHY oh WHY do I want to sit in an office with little or no natural light with the cars wizzing past me (at great expense) hmmm? Correct me if I'm wrong on that (I flicked through the undoubtedly impressive and filmic arhiporn in AR) but this is rather ridiculous, Foster is still chasing pointless and ugly steel and glass buildings as if these really are cutting edge anymore and Zaha is creating more and more formalistic crap, a good example of why not to expand your office/workload too fast.
The Irish thing looks ok but boring, the Pariliament is weird but impressive (that it actually managed to get built by the Scottish construction industry, never mind the cost) And finally Alsop's thingy looks like it was drawn up by the children it was designed for.
This is beyond a joke. They should call it the Mutual Back Slapping Prize...
The End :)
p.s. I use words such as 'thingy' to expediate the outpouring of my anger and scorn for this award. I know I know...get a life!
I don't like the list much more than the current one, and you'll notice I included a fosters, this time because I think it actually has potential, the Adjaye idea house is bold, socially minded, and beautiful (unlike Alsops), Sauerbach station is imaginative and fun, and both RMJM's designs are (as far as I can tell) carefully thought out responses to the needs of the program, not to the aesthetic and pornographic requirements of the architectural elite and press. (you can guess who I aim that criticism at)
And I would put the Scottish Pariliament in there too, not because I like the architecture particularly, but because it could have an important role in educating the public on what architecture should and can be; unique, complex, different, and more expensive than the cheapest, most simple option.
while it's not my favorite project ever, it's one of the most compelling and provocative NEW projects i've seen. incredibly seductive:
the enigmatic screenprint/bas-relief skin of the otherwise mute box that gives very little indication of what's inside,
the panels/fins that open and close over the course of the day allowing light in, views out, and seem like blinders/masks, completely changing the appearance and activating an otherwise simple facade,
interior spaces that look simple but provide a complex choreography of interior circulation,
a palette that is so mercilessly black and white, hard and slick, that the flashes of red puffy upholstered desks, chairs, workstations at special locations are both visual relief and very sexy
its in a crime-prone (drug dealing, low-income tower housing, you get the picture) area so security is an issue, but rather than make a bunker he makes a colorful cage, and inserts a yurt. almost zero budget so he uses shipping containers and a mongolian yurt. its brilliant.
for the rest...
zaha is boring. the gallery is beautiful, and scottish parliament is overdesigned (yes i am 3/4 scotch, so don't trust me, i might be cynical).
my bet (for first to be featured in sci-fi movie) is the TU Utrecht library by Arets...
when i visited, two local students who were giving my friends and I directions to the Educatorium told us not to miss the new library, "it's straight out of star wars..."
signum - some quality there no doubt.
If you believe the Stirling prize is a joke then do you hold the same opinion on the Pritzer?
In the mean time some images the McLaren Technology Centre
The country house more akin to Arthur C Clarke than Agatha Christie.
I have always been a fan of high-tech movement. The quality lies in the subtlety of the technological fetish on display, a reflection of the precision engineering contained within the building.
the queen even unveiled a prototype of the F1 freestanding gents urinal, the man standing behind is taking aim.
Hehehe, 'twas, I guess. I particularly loved the rebuttal of 'anguished local resident' who thought it out of context, being so black in amongst so much "brickyness", to which presenter replied: "But you live in *that*", pointing to her similarly black and far grimmer apartment block.
I'm biased towards Oak Farm though, because I know that Amanda's a great person, and that the detailing and interior design will be utterly meticulous!
I though that the prize giving sessions were atrocious television - glitchy and cringe-inducing. Camerawork was all over the place. They awarded the Manser Medal while most of the guests were busy finishing their dinner. They should've let Piers Gough present the whole show - it's not Grand Designs, after all.
Kevin is great! I loved how he stuck it to Foster... something along the lines of " are you always going to design grey buildings?" LOL
Norman didnt really know how to respond first.
Aye, true! Foster did scramble to find some other colours in there, didn't he? "Well the sky out there's kind of blue, and the cars are pretty colours..." I think he finally conceded though.
Mr McCloud didn't have to say much to fluster the designer of the wooden bath either.
Stirling Prize 2005
The new Scottish parliament building is the favourite - the other three buildings on the list are: Zaha Hadid's BMW central building in Leipzig, Germany;
O'Donnel and Tuomey's Lewis Glucksman gallery in Cork, Ireland;
and Will Alsop's Fawood children centre in Harlesden, London.
The winning building will be announced in the autumn.
What's your money on?
the gallery in Cork looks pretty sweet. ayone got a link to more info on it?
you missed this one http://www.fosterandpartners.com/internetsite/html/News.asp?ID=192
O'Donnel and Tuomey's Lewis Glucksman gallery my fav but think Scottish parliament will bag the prize
info on O'Donnel and Tuomey http://www.odonnell-tuomey.ie/
money's on the Scottish Parliament, but I'd like to see the Cork gallery win.
thetre is another building shortlisted , i can't find it though.
from the RIBA website:
The shortlist for the 10th anniversary RIBA Stirling Prize in association with The Architects’ Journal will be announced on 9 September 2005.
http://www.riba.org/go/RIBA/News/Press_4756.html?q=prize%202005
this one perhaps?
Yeh, I think your right stainB. Although it is a bridge not a building (a bridge has one before).
Gateshead Millenium Bridge
Of couse the formal anouncement of the shortlist for the 10th anniversary RIBA Stirling Prize will be announced on 9 September 2005. So there may be more surprises but I doubt it.
db - more images on the Glucksman gallery in Cork
thanks BOTS. sweet indeed.
yeah, the gallery is nice. we all know that the scottish parliament will get it due to it's legacy.
both are wicked, though.
- BMW Central Building, Leipzig, Germany - Zaha Hadid Architects (odds: 5-1)
- Lewis Glucksman Gallery, University College, Cork, Ireland - O'Donnell + Tuomey (odds: 7-2)
- The Scottish Parliament, Edinburgh - EMBT / RMJM Ltd (odds: 5-1)
- McLaren Technology Centre, Woking, Surrey - Foster and Partners (odds: 5-2, joint favourite)
- Jubilee Library, Brighton, Sussex - Bennetts Associates with Lomax Cassidy + Edwards (odds: 5-2, joint favourite)
- Fawood Children's Centre, Harlesden, NW10 - Alsop Design Ltd (odds: 7-1)
if there's any justice in the world, it has to be the Scottish Parliament Building. The MP's offices just look like fantastic places to work.
the project is great, but the detailing and the choice of materials (down to rmjm or whatever the name is) is apalling...it looks like a shopping centre, all those pastell colors...it's terrible, specially in relation to the heritage of a dead Architect who had a majestic eye for simple, pure materials.what is that panelling on the furniture?!and that carpet? look at iguallada, santa caterina ecc...
it should win, but as a celebration of Miralles' work, not for the finished buiding.
Otherwise go zaha go!
(man, is it normal to like someone's work so much? it's like i'm a 13 years old girl and she is a boyband...scary!)
personally, the interior looks like a set from harry potter... too many conflicting geometry with blank surfaces. Hopkins new parliment building in westminster has almost identical approach, arch ceiling, bay window, timber finishes etc. and fantastic detailing...
apparently they have had to put padding on the corner in front of the seat in the window because all the polititions were bangin' their heads off it if so this would also make the facades an even greater gimic would it not?
i'd agree that the pastel colour of the back wall is a bit weak, and the carpet is poor, but i'd still want to work there. I can't believe people could bang their heads on that angle!
Are there some more pictures of Zaha's building?
that will do for now!
zat ish Architectural porn yesh....and i love it!
Yup - a visual feast. I'm a big fan of Zaha. The more i look into this building the more I love the sculptural forms. Perfect for this industrial / high tech building.
yeah, I have to admit, that's pretty cool. Better relationship to the ground than Miralles. Those bladed columns are sweet.
what about pictures of that irish gallery?
the stairs are fantastic. Very clever. I'd vote for Zaha on that one.
phew, amazing stairs! for a moment i had a second thought for my fav... it's very geometrical and well composed... perhaps lacking the "fourth" space - time and sense of poetry?
Zaha getting it would be great as the whole concept to realisation is so prefectly done, and I think she will- although I worked on the Jubilee Library, so I have mixed and confused feelings!
I have to disagree with agfa8x on that MP office- that really does look bad- how can you concentrate on your work knowing you are directly above that carpet- and there's hardly any natural light in there either!
chamon zaha!
I'm betting on Miralles. I think Zaha's gonna win next year with the Phaeno.
Miralles building should win by the sole fact that it cost a f**kin fortune to finish. All this against the backdrop of the well known tight fisted Scottish nation.
What's the difference between a tightrope and a Scotsman ? A tightrope sometimes gives.
Right. This 'prize' is something of a joke in my opinion, because within it appears once again another banal building from Foster, and a rather inhuman thing from Zaha. WHY oh WHY do I want to sit in an office with little or no natural light with the cars wizzing past me (at great expense) hmmm? Correct me if I'm wrong on that (I flicked through the undoubtedly impressive and filmic arhiporn in AR) but this is rather ridiculous, Foster is still chasing pointless and ugly steel and glass buildings as if these really are cutting edge anymore and Zaha is creating more and more formalistic crap, a good example of why not to expand your office/workload too fast.
The Irish thing looks ok but boring, the Pariliament is weird but impressive (that it actually managed to get built by the Scottish construction industry, never mind the cost) And finally Alsop's thingy looks like it was drawn up by the children it was designed for.
This is beyond a joke. They should call it the Mutual Back Slapping Prize...
The End :)
p.s. I use words such as 'thingy' to expediate the outpouring of my anger and scorn for this award. I know I know...get a life!
so lets start a new list,
signum which 5 buildings will you nominate?
http://www.architecture.com/go/Architecture/Also/Awards_4755.html
Well, I do feel to able to do that one would have to know these buildings better, and at least visit them, but, for arguments sake, here are mine;
http://www.architecture.com/go/Architecture/Also/Awards_4679.html
http://www.architecture.com/go/Architecture/Also/Awards_4658.html
http://www.architecture.com/go/Architecture/Also/Awards_4665.html
http://www.architecture.com/go/Architecture/Also/Awards_4678.html
http://www.architecture.com/go/Architecture/Also/Awards_4676.html
I don't like the list much more than the current one, and you'll notice I included a fosters, this time because I think it actually has potential, the Adjaye idea house is bold, socially minded, and beautiful (unlike Alsops), Sauerbach station is imaginative and fun, and both RMJM's designs are (as far as I can tell) carefully thought out responses to the needs of the program, not to the aesthetic and pornographic requirements of the architectural elite and press. (you can guess who I aim that criticism at)
And I would put the Scottish Pariliament in there too, not because I like the architecture particularly, but because it could have an important role in educating the public on what architecture should and can be; unique, complex, different, and more expensive than the cheapest, most simple option.
I look forward to anyone elses lists!
Oh and i think this sounds good too.
http://www.architecture.com/go/Architecture/Also/Awards_4711.html
while it's not my favorite project ever, it's one of the most compelling and provocative NEW projects i've seen. incredibly seductive:
the enigmatic screenprint/bas-relief skin of the otherwise mute box that gives very little indication of what's inside,
the panels/fins that open and close over the course of the day allowing light in, views out, and seem like blinders/masks, completely changing the appearance and activating an otherwise simple facade,
interior spaces that look simple but provide a complex choreography of interior circulation,
a palette that is so mercilessly black and white, hard and slick, that the flashes of red puffy upholstered desks, chairs, workstations at special locations are both visual relief and very sexy
That does look cool Steven, it reminds me of the architecture building 'Vertigo' in eindhoven by Diederen Dirrix van Wylick Architecten
[img[http://eindhovenseschool.net/imag/project/project_257-1.jpg[/img]
I loved this building, to look at, work in, inspirational!
So signum, you're a big fan of ornament then, eh? :-P
My money is also on the Parliament.
I very like the sauerbruch hutton fire station. the plan is a particularly satisfying shape.
And that Arets library is cool. I like those black relief panels on the interior and the slight overscaling.
will alsop's project is better than it looks.
its in a crime-prone (drug dealing, low-income tower housing, you get the picture) area so security is an issue, but rather than make a bunker he makes a colorful cage, and inserts a yurt. almost zero budget so he uses shipping containers and a mongolian yurt. its brilliant.
for the rest...
zaha is boring. the gallery is beautiful, and scottish parliament is overdesigned (yes i am 3/4 scotch, so don't trust me, i might be cynical).
the real question is: which will be featured in a science fiction film first. this will determine the true winner.
my bet (for first to be featured in sci-fi movie) is the TU Utrecht library by Arets...
when i visited, two local students who were giving my friends and I directions to the Educatorium told us not to miss the new library, "it's straight out of star wars..."
it feels more like a cathedral for books than a ty;pical library
I'm slowly warming to ornament yes WonderK ;)
S-l-o-w-l-y!
1. sauerbruch hutton architects, Fire and police station = refurbishment
http://www.sauerbruchhutton.de/portfolio/02_fpr/fpr_e/fpr.html
2. Foster and Partners, Millau Viaduct = engineering
3. Amin Taha Architects, Gazano House = young practice
http://www.amintaha.co.uk/
4.Zaha Hadid Architects, BMW Central Building = innovation
5...
my 2 cents.
signum - some quality there no doubt.
If you believe the Stirling prize is a joke then do you hold the same opinion on the Pritzer?
In the mean time some images the McLaren Technology Centre
The country house more akin to Arthur C Clarke than Agatha Christie.
I have always been a fan of high-tech movement. The quality lies in the subtlety of the technological fetish on display, a reflection of the precision engineering contained within the building.
the queen even unveiled a prototype of the F1 freestanding gents urinal, the man standing behind is taking aim.
Just announced on Channel 4 - the winner is..................
Scottish parliament building.
I would have thought the cost overun would have overshadowed the architecture. The architecture rightly won.
And the Manser Medal went to the Stealth House. Not Oak Farm - bah!
Scottish Parliament ....arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh
but the stealth house was sweet :)
Hehehe, 'twas, I guess. I particularly loved the rebuttal of 'anguished local resident' who thought it out of context, being so black in amongst so much "brickyness", to which presenter replied: "But you live in *that*", pointing to her similarly black and far grimmer apartment block.
I'm biased towards Oak Farm though, because I know that Amanda's a great person, and that the detailing and interior design will be utterly meticulous!
I though that the prize giving sessions were atrocious television - glitchy and cringe-inducing. Camerawork was all over the place. They awarded the Manser Medal while most of the guests were busy finishing their dinner. They should've let Piers Gough present the whole show - it's not Grand Designs, after all.
Kevin is great! I loved how he stuck it to Foster... something along the lines of " are you always going to design grey buildings?" LOL
Norman didnt really know how to respond first.
Aye, true! Foster did scramble to find some other colours in there, didn't he? "Well the sky out there's kind of blue, and the cars are pretty colours..." I think he finally conceded though.
Mr McCloud didn't have to say much to fluster the designer of the wooden bath either.
Well, certainly no surprise there. It makes sense, I mean how could they justify spending so much money on a building unless it was award-winning?
Are there clips of this conversation or ceremony that you are talking about somewhere? I'd like to see...
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